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convict an innocent person.
5 10%
let a guilty person go free.
47 90%
Voters: 52.
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#1
Would you rather:

A: convict an innocent person.

or

B: let a guilty person go free.
grok it.

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Last edited by dubstar92 at Dec 29, 2008,
#2
There are too many variables...

What is the guilty man guilty of?

What is the innocent man being convicted of?

How high are you?
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#4
I would rather have 100 guilty men go free than have one innocent man go to jail.
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#5
I don't think I would be able to live myself knowing I sent an innocent man to rot.

However, I would take solace knowing that the aforementioned guilty individual would eventually get what he or she deserves. I'm a karma person, so, that's my reasoning.

It's a tough decision, but I see the latter as a better situation.
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#6
Quote by IDread
There are too many variables...

What is the guilty man guilty of? +1

What is the innocent man being convicted of? +1

How high are you? +124132436254


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#7
Depends on what the man is guilty of. For example, if he's a serial murderer, obviously I'd send an innocent person to jail.
If he's just a thief, I'd let him go free.
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#8
Quote by Riddler
I would rather have 100 guilty men go free than have one innocent man go to jail.


Even if those 100 guilty men are convicted and proven serial child murderers and the innocent man is being put away for a month for possession of marijuana?

Think about what you say sir.
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#9
let the guilty man go free....no further harm is done? Right?
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#10
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Even if those 100 guilty men are convicted and proven serial child murderers and the innocent man is being put away for a month for possession of marijuana?

Think about what you say sir.


You know what I mean.
Life is underrated.


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#11
Quote by Riddler
I would rather have 100 guilty men go free than have one innocent man go to jail.
i wouldnt.

say, arent you supposed to be in arkham? damn criminal justice system!
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I have no opinion on this matter.
#12
Quote by Riddler
You know what I mean.


I really don't.

It might be because I'm really quite high right now but what you said sounded like a copypaste to make you seem like a shining paragon of freedom. The actual effect making me think you are something of a deranged chimpanzie who doesn't think what he says through.
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#13
The guilty man might not commit any more crimes if freed so by freeing him there's a possibility no more bad **** happens.

But the innocent man will rot in jail no matter what.

You should have been more specific with your post TS.

Atleast give tell us the crimes and length of prison time.
#14
Quote by IDread
Even if those 100 guilty men are convicted and proven serial child murderers and the innocent man is being put away for a month for possession of marijuana?

Think about what you say sir.


well if he's being put away for possession of marijuana then he's not so innocent is he?
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#15
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well if he's being put away for possession of marijuana then he's not so innocent is he?


He gave a **** example.
#16
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He gave a **** example.


my point exactly
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#17
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well if he's being put away for possession of marijuana then he's not so innocent is he?


He doesn't have to have actually been in possession of marijuana to be put away for it. The situation we have been given is that he is an innocent man being put away for a crime he didn't commit.

And on a side note, I would consider anybody being imprisoned for ganja to be innocent even if they were caught with herb. No victim, no crime.
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#18
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I really don't.

It might be because I'm really quite high right now but what you said sounded like a copypaste to make you seem like a shining paragon of freedom. The actual effect making me think you are something of a deranged chimpanzie who doesn't think what he says through.


What I said was in line with what the TS said, not what anyone else said. He wasn't specific, so neither was I.

Happy, asshole?
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#19
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He doesn't have to have actually been in possession of marijuana to be put away for it. The situation we have been given is that he is an innocent man being put away for a crime he didn't commit.

And on a side note, I would consider anybody being imprisoned for ganja to be innocent even if they were caught with herb. No victim, no crime.


well i don't no about britain but in the U.S. it's illegal to be in possession of marijuana. i personally think it's bull**** but the law is the law. i still wouldn't send an innocent man to jail.

no victim no crime? so if i go on a rampage and destroy public property but don't hurt or kill anyone, i'm innocent? think about what you said.
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#20
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He doesn't have to have actually been in possession of marijuana to be put away for it. The situation we have been given is that he is an innocent man being put away for a crime he didn't commit.

And on a side note, I would consider anybody being imprisoned for ganja to be innocent even if they were caught with herb. No victim, no crime.


Although i agree with you about how retarded drug laws are, its still a crime.
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well i don't no about britain but in the U.S. it's illegal to be in possession of marijuana. i personally think it's bull**** but the law is the law. i still wouldn't send an innocent man to jail.

no victim no crime? so if i go on a rampage and destroy public property but don't hurt or kill anyone, i'm innocent? think about what you said.


Smoking weed and destroying public property are very different things. People have to replaced the damaged property which costs money.
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#22
Quote by SomebodySomeone
well i don't no about britain but in the U.S. it's illegal to be in possession of marijuana. i personally think it's bull**** but the law is the law. i still wouldn't send an innocent man to jail.

no victim no crime? so if i go on a rampage and destroy public property but don't hurt or kill anyone, i'm innocent? think about what you said.

Well, technically the victim is the taxpayers because they pay to repair it...
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#23
Convict the innocent. Err on the side of caution.
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#24
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What I said was in line with what the TS said, not what anyone else said. He wasn't specific, so neither was I.


I didn't imply it was anyone in this thread. I said something to the effect that your comment was poorly thought through.

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Happy, asshole?


What don't you understand about "really quite high"?
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#25
Quote by dubstar92
Well, technically the victim is the taxpayers because they pay to repair it...


yeah but i'm sure idread didn't think of that. i honestly would not make a innocent person suffer for something they didn't commit. even if it meant letting go of a guilty person.


EDIT: the thing is the TS didn't specify what the criminal did and other ****. if he did then this would be easier for some people to make a choice. but that just defeats the purpose of the question.
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#26
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no victim no crime? so if i go on a rampage and destroy public property but don't hurt or kill anyone, i'm innocent? think about what you said.


No sir, you think about what you say.
Nobody who is stoned can be arsed to go on a rampage of any kind. Nobody.
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#27
Quote by IDread
What don't you understand about "really quite high"?

Sorry to break it to you, but no one cares how high you are.
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#28
Quote by dubstar92
Sorry to break it to you, but no one cares how high you are.


That wasn't the point. He asked me if I was happy and evidently, I am very happy.
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#29
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No sir, you think about what you say.
Nobody who is stoned can be arsed to go on a rampage of any kind. Nobody.

sorry to tell you but, been there done that.

either way, like i mentioned in my EDIT, you can't be specific with what the criminal and the innocent person did, or didn't do. it defeats the purpose of the question. this question pretty much is to test your morals. or am i wrong?

well i stand with my decision, i would let a person go than to convicted an innocent one.
you may not like it, but that's where my morals stand
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#30
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sorry to tell you but, been there done that.

either way, like i mentioned in my EDIT, you can't be specific with what the criminal and the innocent person did, or didn't do. it defeats the purpose of the question. this question pretty much is to test your morals. or am i wrong?

well i stand with my decision, i would let a person go than to convicted an innocent one.
you may not like it, but that's where my morals stand

I realized that, and fixed it just before you posted, I was peer pressured... but I fought through it.
grok it.

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#31
Obviously let a guilty person free....look at most politicians? They are almost all guilty of something- even it is as trivial as bribery..(although they call it "sponsorship")

Very easy question. We are surrounded by guilty people who are free on a daily basis- whether they are corrupt cops, surgeons selling harvested organs on the black market, doctors selling illegal drugs, politicians taking bribes, pedophiles let out on lax criminal charges etc the list goes on.
#32
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Umm, wouldn't putting an innocent man away let a guilty man go free?

dumb question IMO.


Not necessarily , if an innocent man is convicted of murdering someone who died of natural causes , who got away with that ?
#33
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sorry to tell you but, been there done that.

either way, like i mentioned in my EDIT, you can't be specific with what the criminal and the innocent person did, or didn't do. it defeats the purpose of the question. this question pretty much is to test your morals. or am i wrong?

well i stand with my decision, i would let a person go than to convicted an innocent one.
you may not like it, but that's where my morals stand

But are you making the world (or more realistically, your local area) a safer place by doing that? If you're in a position to convict or set free a person, then wouldn't you also be in a position to keep the general public safe?
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#35
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either way, like i mentioned in my EDIT, you can't be specific with what the criminal and the innocent person did, or didn't do. it defeats the purpose of the question. this question pretty much is to test your morals. or am i wrong?

well i stand with my decision, i would let a person go than to convicted an innocent one.
you may not like it, but that's where my morals stand


It doesn't defeat the purpose of the question to know specifics. To properly asses a hypothetical situation such as this you need specifics.

And yes it is a test of morals, but whichever answer you give, you stand in the exact same moral position, unless I have severly misread something which is seeming very likely at this second.
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#36
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But are you making the world (or more realistically, your local area) a safer place by doing that? If you're in a position to convict or set free a person, then wouldn't you also be in a position to keep the general public safe?


no i wouldn't but think for minute:

let's forget about the criminal for a while and focus on the innocent guy. would you really want to punish someone for something they didn't do? ruin their life? no i didn't think so

now lets do the opposite. forget about the innocent man and focus on the criminal"

would you really want to let go of a criminal? whether he's just a thief or a killer? no i didn't think so.


the fact of the matter is that there is no right answer. i prefer to do neither but that's not an option. you have to test your morals and see on which side you're on. that's the purpose of a double edge sword type of question. which evil do you prefer?
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#37
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no i wouldn't but think for minute:

let's forget about the criminal for a while and focus on the innocent guy. would you really want to punish someone for something they didn't do? ruin their life? no i didn't think so

now lets do the opposite. forget about the innocent man and focus on the criminal"

would you really want to let go of a criminal? whether he's just a thief or a killer? no i didn't think so.


the fact of the matter is that there is no right answer. i prefer to do neither but that's not an option. you have to test your morals and see on which side you're on. that's the purpose of a double edge sword type of question. which evil do you prefer?


The point is sending an innocent person to jail is terrible. We are surrounded by criminals who are guilty on a daily basis who are free. Adding another guilty criminal to the already astounding number of them isn't as bad as putting an innocent person into jail with a very small number of innocent people.
#38
Quote by IDread
It doesn't defeat the purpose of the question to know specifics. To properly asses a hypothetical situation such as this you need specifics.

And yes it is a test of morals, but whichever answer you give, you stand in the exact same moral position, unless I have severly misread something which is seeming very likely at this second.

exactly. but if you give specifics then it does defeat the purpose of the question. for example:

let a serial child killer go? or put a innocent man in jail for a month
let a thief go? or put an innocent man in jail for life?
or try either combination

you see? giving specifics gives you a better peace of mind.

but either way, to me the correct answer is niether. but since you have to choice one, it doesn't matter which you choose. both choices make you a bad person.
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#39
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exactly. but if you give specifics then it does defeat the purpose of the question. for example:

let a serial child killer go? or put a innocent man in jail for a month
let a thief go? or put an innocent man in jail for life?
or try either combination

you see? giving specifics gives you a better peace of mind.

but either way, to me the correct answer is niether. but since you have to choice one, it doesn't matter which you choose. both choices make you a bad person.



Again you miss the point. Inferior legal systems allow child serial killers/rapists/pedos and theifs go free on a yearly basis.

This question is only a double edged sword if the legal system truly worked.
#40
Quote by SomebodySomeone
no i wouldn't but think for minute:

let's forget about the criminal for a while and focus on the innocent guy. would you really want to punish someone for something they didn't do? ruin their life? no i didn't think so

now lets do the opposite. forget about the innocent man and focus on the criminal"

would you really want to let go of a criminal? whether he's just a thief or a killer? no i didn't think so.


the fact of the matter is that there is no right answer. i prefer to do neither but that's not an option. you have to test your morals and see on which side you're on. that's the purpose of a double edge sword type of question. which evil do you prefer?

Of course there's no right answer. There isn't a wrong one, either. It's a ridiculous question and it's a scenario that I can't imagine ever happening in real life, but... that's what hypothetical questions are. I could just as well ask if you'd let a murdering child rapist run free because you don't want to put an innocent man behind bars for a few months for marijuana possession.
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