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#1
I was in HMV and I saw loads of CD's packaged exactly like a vinyl would, on there was a CD in it, but the question is, would you like to see vinyls brought back to replace CD's? Or maybe just to be made more available.
#2
Made More available.
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#4
There are a lot of vinyls still available for newer and older albums, they just aren't as easily available as CDs.

EDIT: Just the other day I got Ride the Lightning by Metallica on vinyl.
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#5
No, I would hate it if everybody started collecting vinyl as it means less and less digging for me!
I love vinyl and there is plenty of it available for new and old records.
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#6
hifi purists have always stuck with vinyl, cos they prefer the analogue over digital

you can get different thicknesses as well - the thicker the better as i understand it, but IMO, no I don't want them back but I do like the idea that if we didn't have electricity you could still play your old 33's
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#9
They're pretty available in Sydney if you go into a large JB Hi-Fi
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#10
Yarp,

especially if it would mean no more sound level compression.
I'm talking about the "fancy" technique used to mix recordings - translated as louder means better.

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#11
No, they sound crap and cost far too much to manufacture. You also only get a few listens out of it before the quality is ruined.
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No, they sound crap and cost far too much to manufacture. You also only get a few listens out of it before the quality is ruined.


Sound crap? are you retarded?
Vinyls have the best sound.

I don't think vinyls should come back
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#14
the artwork on them is much cooler tho
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#15
Vinyls shows class.
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#16
Come back? No. But if I'm in a band and we release anything, there's going to be a run of vinyls. Love the way they sound.
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#17
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hifi purists have always stuck with vinyl, cos they prefer the analogue over digital

you can get different thicknesses as well - the thicker the better as i understand it, but IMO, no I don't want them back but I do like the idea that if we didn't have electricity you could still play your old 33's

Well, without electricity for amplification, they wouldn't sound very good/loud.
I do like to buy some nice coloured vinyl or rare picture discs every now and then.
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#18
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Sound crap? are you retarded?
Vinyls have the best sound.

I don't think vinyls should come back


No, I just prefer not to have a load of shitty crackling around my music when I listen to it.
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#19
vinyl has a place but i don't think it'll ever have a massive resurgence. some of my mum's old vinyl has only been played fifty or so times per album (she reckons) and they've become unlistenable, kept only for sentimental reasons (old beatles albums, etc). maybe more modern vinyl is tougher, i wouldn't know.
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Well, without electricity for amplification, they wouldn't sound very good/loud.I do like to buy some nice coloured vinyl or rare picture discs every now and then.



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#21
They've been getting more popular in the last five years or so. I could easily start collecting, since most of the music I listen to was released on vinyl in the first place, and you can find it so cheaply on the internet. When the USDollar was really weak I remember my dad buying records for about 50pence from the US.
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#22
Vinyls dont have a better sound, they are too big, they dont have a vinyl playre in cars, they can break easily, and they are a pain in the ass to produce. This isnt the seventies.
#23
The problem with Vinyl is it's expensive to make comapred to CDs the sound quality is no where near as good and the will eventually wear out. I have a huge record collection from the late 70s early 80s that is pretty much crap now. Even though I took care of them they get old and just don't have that new sound.

I see small racks of vinyl at the music shops but they are usually geared torward a collector or someone who uses them DJ'ing rather than someone wanting good sound quality. The other problem is your going to find most bands that will bother making vinyl copies of their CDs.

I almost forgot the sound on a vinyl record is only as good as your turntable. If you have some old crappy turntable with a crap needle it's going to sound like sh*t anyway.

You really can't beat the digital sound quality on a CD or in MP3s.


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#24
They become unlistenable after a while, but I love collecting them anyways.

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#25
I'd love to have a vinyl player in my car.
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#26
I still buy vinyls. Nuff said.
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#27
There's this place called Vinyl Fever near me where they sell old used vinyls for 99 cents a piece. Once a month I walk in with a 20 dollar bill and leave with a box full of classic records. It's awesome!
#28
Tons of punk/indie bands still release their EP's and Splits on vinyl. Sometimes their full length albums as well.
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#29
I still buy albums I really like on vinyl occasionally. I hate the amount of compression on most modern music (especially MP3's).

And for the guy who said compression means "louder = better" it doesn't.

Compression is an effect used to make recordings (of individual instruments, or a whole mix) sound tighter. It makes the quietest parts louder and the loud parts quieter.



Think of it as putting your hands on the top and bottom of this waveform and squeezing it.


The result is overcompressed records and songs like 'Go With the Flow' where the instruments have no room to breathe and the quality and clarity is completely lost.

Don't get me wrong, I love QOTSA but their sound is just muddy.
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#30
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You really can't beat the digital sound quality in ... MP3s.

Are you serious? Oh how I hate bit-rate compression. You lose all depth in the music.

Anyway, back on track with vinyl.

I love the stuff.
I love that your disc will wear out at a different rate than anyone else's, and get dust in different places. It's such a personal experience.

Mastering vinyl doesn't mean squash the crap out of it and make it louder than everyone else. It takes much more skill. The engineer has to ride the song to make sure it's not so loud as to make the needle jump. They need to make sure the bass isn't too big or wide for the same reasons.

Whoever said that the vinyl that their mother had that was useless after 50 listens obviously has a mother who treats vinyl like crap, or doesn't know that you can remove the dust.

If you own a turntable and don't like vinyl, I urge you to buy The Police's 'Outlandos D'amour' and crank 'dat. You can hear the analog overdrive in the recording.

Anyway, I don't prefer analog over digital. I think there are arguments for both. They each fit different moods. Vinyl is rough and CDs are clean. The medium has influenced production styles, and in turn, consumer preferences and then record company preferences.
#31
Vinyl is pretty useless. It's not exactly convenient if you want to put tracks from vinyl onto your computer
Last year I started burning my dad's records onto our computer using some borrowed software. It took a long time. it did mean I spent most of my summer listening to 70s prog rock though

When it comes to the 'vinyl is crap after X amount of plays' I have to disagree with you there. If you look after it properly. My dad's records have been kept in good condition, so they still sound good. Bit too much dust after they went in storage whislt moving house, but they're fine once I cleaned em up. The one that was kept in the best condition was Jeff Wayne's Musical Version Of the War of the Worlds.

So I'd say keep it the way it is.
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#32
I am in love with my vinyls... but CDs are definitely more practical. I happen to live in a town where there are quite a few places to go shop for vinyls, so they're not in short supply. Vinyls are more satisfying and sound better. But again, CDs are more practical.
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#33
there's a good amount out now, butt a few bands could put out a few more.
&& i have a bunch of my stepdad's old records hanging on my wall. (:
looks nice.


butt they are nice for collectors, && i think that's about it.
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#34
I only buy vinyls these days, I don't bother with CDs anymore. With new vinyl releases you often get a free digital download with it anyways so you have the MP3s as well, so I don't see the problem. They're just much nicer to have than CDs.
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I only buy vinyls these days, I don't bother with CDs anymore. With new vinyl releases you often get a free digital download with it anyways so you have the MP3s as well, so I don't see the problem. They're just much nicer to have than CDs.



OOOh really!

that's it, I'm going back to vinyl
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#36
At this point since so many bands don't make vinyls I've just started using a tube processor for my ipod and sound system. Makes them sound warm like vinyl but without the crackling.
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#37
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OOOh really!

that's it, I'm going back to vinyl

Yup, I'm sold too!
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#38
Not really. I listen to CDs a lot, but I'll buy vinyls every once in a while.

Yesterday I bought 'Are You Experienced' on vinyl
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#39
I've seen new records on sale in Vinyl form. They are clearly coming back, especially now that people have realised that Mp3's give inferior sound quality, they want the best available.

I haven't heard a vinyl player in ages, so I really can't compare. I buy CD's.
#40
Sorry, what? As far as I'm aware, most bands/labels still produce vinyl versions of their albums. That they're less common is fine, there's only really demand for them in the hifi and collector markets.
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