#1
I live in America and our family has no health care which makes trips to the doctors really expensive and getting tests done even more.

I know the UK has a nationalized health care, so does that mean everything is free or is the cost reduced? I.E rehabilitation, x-rays, mri, surgery

If it is free, does it take a long time to see a doctor or specialist? I would assume so since if medical bills are free everyone would be flocking to medical centers.

Would you still be able to get the same quality of service from the doctors/surgeons compared to the ones in America?

Lastly, would Obama do any to get Nationalized Health care in America?
#2
Health care is free with the exceptions of dental care, optical care and prescription medicines. Waiting times aren't as bad as they're made out to be.
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Tbh it's better to get private care imo. Even though you're paying for it, you won't be dead by the time you get the treatment.

is private care cheaper than in America, though?
#6
My brother got a $3000 operation for free
I got 90 pounds off of my new glasses

That speaks for itself...

Although there is definitely a time delay. Not as huge as they make it out to be in the media, but it's still there. Private doctors are also available so it's not like you have no choice but to wait for the operations and whatnot.

And, to Aramis, I get my dental for free here... optical care still costs me money but, as I said, I had the price reduced by 75% due to some factors
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I know the UK has a nationalized health care, so does that mean everything is free or is the cost reduced? I.E rehabilitation, x-rays, mri

Most healthcare is free, dental is expensive though unless you're llucky to have an NHS dentist. But yes, healthcare is mostly free. You might have to buy some meds though. If your physique isn't in a life-theatening state, then you may have to wait for x-rays. If you're in a serious condtion, they prioritise you I think.

If it is free, does it take a long time to see a doctor or specialist? I would assume so since if medical bills are free everyone would be flocking to medical centers.

You can normally book a GP and see them that day or the day after (where I am anyway). Specialists may take longer to see.

Would you still be able to get the same quality of service from the doctors/surgeons compared to the ones in America?

I think the service is petty good. It isn't as if they'd do a bodge job for the hell of it. theer are better and worse hospitals here.

Lastly, would Obama do any to get Nationalized Health care in America?


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#8
Nationalised health care is eeeeeasily the way forward. The NHS has its problems but its nothing like as bad leaving people with no treatment or to die because they cannot afford it.
#9
Prescriptions are free too in Wales.

The waiting lists over here can be quite bad depending on where you are, for example I've waited 3 months for an MRI, which is fine if it's probably nothing serious but if it was something potentially life threatening that would be a long time.

I don't even know how nationalised health care would work in America, due to hospitals having always charged, the amount of people living there and different laws in different states, so I have a feeling he just mentioned it to get votes
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#10
Would you still be able to get the same quality of service from the doctors/surgeons compared to the ones in America?

Wouldn't know. It's pretty easy to get to see a doctor though. Everywhere has their own GP service.

Hospitals vary obviously. Or in the case of the hospital where I was born, the quality varies depending on what wing you're in. My dad was recently in the new wing, they took care of him really well. He was only in there because of a small nick during a basic procedure.
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Also, don't forget, in order to nationalise the health service, that means higher taxes.
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#11
OK, apparently the NHS is better than I thought if you get dental for free and optical reduced. That's awesome.
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I live in America and our family has no health care which makes trips to the doctors really expensive and getting tests done even more.

I know the UK has a nationalized health care, so does that mean everything is free or is the cost reduced? I.E rehabilitation, x-rays, mri, surgery

If it is free, does it take a long time to see a doctor or specialist? I would assume so since if medical bills are free everyone would be flocking to medical centers.

Would you still be able to get the same quality of service from the doctors/surgeons compared to the ones in America?

Lastly, would Obama do any to get Nationalized Health care in America?



Well, the UK does have a National Health Service. From what I hear, its pretty good, they cover everyone, and most care is free. However the wait times are pretty long.

Obama, before his run for the Presidency did support a Single Payer Health Care system of some sort of mechanism. Now however, he plans on mixing Public Health Care with the Private System, hopefully in the end turning out more like the French System. Without the imminent Republican obstructionism, health care reform should pass within the US. Hopefully.
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OK, apparently the NHS is better than I thought if you get dental for free and optical reduced. That's awesome.

Dental is only free if

A) you're under-16/full-time education (and a few other circumstances), and
B) with an NHS dentist (which still has some fees).
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OK, apparently the NHS is better than I thought if you get dental for free and optical reduced. That's awesome.

Not everywhere though.
We certainly have to pay dental fees (and optical too, but for under 18s you get a voucher for free eye-tests and money off lenses/frames)
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I live in America and our family has no health care which makes trips to the doctors really expensive and getting tests done even more.

I know the UK has a nationalized health care, so does that mean everything is free or is the cost reduced? I.E rehabilitation, x-rays, mri, surgery

If it is free, does it take a long time to see a doctor or specialist? I would assume so since if medical bills are free everyone would be flocking to medical centers.

Would you still be able to get the same quality of service from the doctors/surgeons compared to the ones in America?

Lastly, would Obama do any to get Nationalized Health care in America?

I always find it strange when Americans say that as though people shouldn't go to health centres when they're ill.

I think you guys are just too used to the idea of going to see a doctor being the absolute last resort.

I personally can't understand the idea that only people with money should be allowed access to decent medical treatment. It's a frankly bizarre notion.

Our doctors are of a high standard, and yes there is a rather large waiting list for a lot of things. But if you are ill, or injured you will be treated. Whether you're old, young rich or poor you will be treated. And I think that is an important thing for any first world country to be able to say.

From what I've seen, Obama's plans will be a massive improvement to America's current system but they're no where near to the extent of the British national health service.
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#16
The NHS is much better than it's portrayed.

That reminds me, my GP died, need to get a new one
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Dental is only free if

A) you're under-16/full-time education (and a few other circumstances), and
B) with an NHS dentist (which still has some fees).


And it's not like those fees cost much anyways. It costs me about £35 for a check-up. £35 for once a year with any minor touch ups is reasonable, I think. £60 or so if I need a removal or a filling.
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And it's not like those fees cost much anyways. It costs me about £35 for a check-up. £35 for once a year with any minor touch ups is reasonable, I think. £60 or so if I need a removal or a filling.

Yeah, the fees aren't too bad, they're just a lot cheaper than they would be if you were with a private dentist.
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