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Alright i might move to the U.S. for various personal and other reasons including the UK was meh now its pretty bad with jobs/money/taxes/law and order etc. Im trying to weigh up the pros and cons

advantages

stuff is very cheap
employment/job situation isnt as severe as the UKs (in terms of percentage of the nation unemployed)
Houses are often very large (great for home studios)
Musicians are very good and plentiful
food is better than the UK


disadvantages

Healthcare system
Lack of friends
Psycho rednecks and religious nuts
Guncrime
difficult to get in (got an assault charge 10 years ago after a bar brawl)
difficult to get set up as private guitar teacher (not sure what qualifications are required)
homesickness
insane freak weather

Any americans who have lived in other countries able to comment. If i were to move where would be ideal (want something not too far from a major city but chilled out and suburban)
Last edited by Andr00 at Dec 29, 2008,
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#4
Getting charged with assault 10 years ago makes you 28 or so, and you still type like that!?

America can have you.
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Getting charged with assault 10 years ago makes you 28 or so, and you still type like that!?

America can have you.



its an internet forum not the declaration of civil rights smartarse


im in great britain


i was also thinking of amsterdam actually i love it and could just move...but could i work only being able to speak english? easy to setup as a music teacher?
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Getting charged with assault 10 years ago makes you 28 or so, and you still type like that!?

America can have you.

We don't want him... Well he can go to the south, he'll still have a leg up on them anyways.
#10
all the negatives you mentioned depend upon where you live
including the religious nut part
if you live in the boonies, people are typically more passionate about their chosen religious beliefs
but pick a big city, but not a huge one, and go out to the suburbs of that city
you'll be close enough to all the stores and everything in town, but you hopefully wont get all the gangs and noise of the city
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Alright i might move to the U.S. for various personal and other reasons. Im trying to weigh up the pros and cons

advantages

stuff is very cheap
employment/job situation isnt as severe as the UKs (in terms of percentage of the nation unemployed)
Houses are often very large (great for home studios)
Musicians are very good and plentiful
food is better than the UK


disadvantages

Healthcare system
Lack of friends
Psycho rednecks and religious nuts
Guncrime
difficult to get in (got an assault charge 10 years ago after a bar brawl)
difficult to get set up as private guitar teacher (not sure what qualifications are required)
homesickness
insane freak weather

Any americans who have lived in other countries able to comment. If i were to move where would be ideal (want something not too far from a major city but chilled out and suburban)


i'll tell you right now, all of which you just stated depends on where you go. i'd say, if you don't have a great deal of money, don't go to any large city like New York because everything will cost you an arm and a leg. my personal choice would be Boston, everyone is nice there, it's a city so no rednecks, religious nuts are only found in small secluded areas of the country so you won't find them in Boston, and there's a big music school you can go to and become a guitar teacher there where im sure friends would be made during your stay.

i've been there and i can tell you it's a nice place to live, crime isn't too bad there and things aren't as expensive as they would be anywhere else.

however the bottom line is you have to do your own research on these places, don't count on people from UG to give you an unbiased opinion of the US.
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i'll tell you right now, all of which you just stated depends on where you go. i'd say, if you don't have a great deal of money, don't go to any large city like New York because everything will cost you an arm and a leg. my personal choice would be Boston, everyone is nice there, it's a city so no rednecks, religious nuts are only found in small secluded areas of the country so you won't find them in Boston, and there's a big music school you can go to and become a guitar teacher there where im sure friends would be made during your stay.

i've been there and i can tell you it's a nice place to live, crime isn't too bad there and things aren't as expensive as they would be anywhere else.



I would have about 40000 dollars when we sell our house (depending on the ****ing exchange rate) i have friends in St Louis but i would prefer somewhere a bit warmer since i live in cold Scotland

Food is fresher and tastier in most other countries than here.
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I would have about 40000 dollars when we sell our house (depending on the ****ing exchange rate) i have friends in St Louis but i would prefer somewhere a bit warmer since i live in cold Scotland

Food is fresher and tastier in most other countries than here.

^ you think scotland is cold... Buddy you're headed for the south.
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U.S dude not america well were are you going to live and i'll give you a more pacific opinion.
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^ you think scotland is cold... Buddy you're headed for the south.



i thought California was considered a northern state?
#18
1. Health care system

Yep, our privatized system is probably a bitch if you're used to the free health care in the UK.

2. Lack of friends

You'll make new friends. Contrary to popular belief, there are a lot of friendly people here if you know where to look.

3. Psycho rednecks and religious nuts

As long as you stay away from the Deep South/very rural areas, these are few and far between. Even if you do live in a rural area (as do I) the rednecks and religious nuts will leave you alone if you leave them alone.

4. Gun crime

It isn't as bad as the BBC would have you believe. As long as you don't move into a gang neighborhood or try to rob someone, it's unlikely you'll be shot, even on accident.

5. difficult to get in (got an assault charge 10 years ago after a bar brawl)

That may be quite an obstacle.

6. difficult to get set up as private guitar teacher (not sure what qualifications are required)

I've had words with the local shops about their requirements and they say as long as a person has 10+ years of experience and an adequate knowledge of theory, they can teach.

7. homesickness

We get BBC America!

8. insane freak weather

As long as you stay away from San Fransisco and the Southeastern Coastline you'll be OK.

Oh, and don't buy a mobile home in the plains region, either.
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I would have about 30000 dollars when we sell our house (depending on the ****ing exchange rate) i have friends in St Louis but i would prefer somewhere a bit warmer since i live in cold Scotland


$30,000 won't buy you a house, but it would be enough to rent out an apartment or dorm if you plan on going to school.

if you have a friend in St. Louis then i suggest you go there. your friend will be able to show you around and tell you what to do and what not to do in the area. it's the best way to familiarize yourself with the city...and it has decent weather.

if you stay in the city you'll have no problem with any rednecks or religious type folk, but honestly even if you did run into them i assure you, you won't have any problems with them anyway. most people (on this website) think that they're people to be afraid of, they're really not.

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i thought California was considered a northern state?


it is, the weather in California is damn hot.
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1. Health care system

Yep, our privatized system is probably a bitch if you're used to the free health care in the UK.

2. Lack of friends

You'll make new friends. Contrary to popular belief, there are a lot of friendly people here if you know where to look.

3. Psycho rednecks and religious nuts

As long as you stay away from the Deep South/very rural areas, these are few and far between. Even if you do live in a rural area (as do I) the rednecks and religious nuts will leave you alone if you leave them alone.

4. Gun crime

It isn't as bad as the BBC would have you believe. As long as you don't move into a gang neighborhood or try to rob someone, it's unlikely you'll be shot, even on accident.

5. difficult to get in (got an assault charge 10 years ago after a bar brawl)

That may be quite an obstacle.

6. difficult to get set up as private guitar teacher (not sure what qualifications are required)

I've had words with the local shops about their requirements and they say as long as a person has 10+ years of experience and an adequate knowledge of theory, they can teach.

7. homesickness

We get BBC America!

8. insane freak weather

As long as you stay away from San Fransisco and the Southeastern Coastline you'll be OK.

Oh, and don't buy a mobile home in the plains region, either.



Sounds good man, actually i dont think i would get in due to the assault charge thing ( i headbutted someone repeatedly for racially abusing a friend of mine) so possibly amsterdam is my easiest option.
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U.S dude not america well were are you going to live and i'll give you a more pacific opinion.
Amsterdam isn't in America...
#23
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Amsterdam isn't in America...

Canada is in North America is it not?
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Stay away from the northeast--nothin but liberal pussies, pretentious assholes, and the like.

Stay away from the deep south and south east-nothin but jesus's-****-suckers, pretentious assholes, and the like

Midwest is alright, West is alright, southwest is alright.

Northwest blows

Dont worry about gun crime unless you hang out with bad people, or in dangerous neighborhoods.

Weather depends on where you live. The US is such a giant place its really easy to live in whatever climate you want.

I'd have to recommend Tennessee, Arizona, Colorado, Missouri.

Any city pushing 1,000,000 people is bound to have nice neighborhoods, good music scene etc. Just do your research.
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$30,000 won't buy you a house, but it would be enough to rent out an apartment or dorm if you plan on going to school.

if you have a friend in St. Louis then i suggest you go there. your friend will be able to show you around and tell you what to do and what not to do in the area. it's the best way to familiarize yourself with the city...and it has decent weather.

if you stay in the city you'll have no problem with any rednecks or religious type folk, but honestly even if you did run into them i assure you, you won't have any problems with them anyway. most people (on this website) think that they're people to be afraid of, they're really not.


it is, the weather in California is damn hot.



actually i think it would be about 30000 pounds which would be 50 grand USD obviously we would rent until sometime taking a mortgage
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go to Canada instead ,... : free health care , and we are welcoming everyone that isn't a stupid prick
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actually i think it would be about 30000 pounds which would be 50 grand USD obviously we would rent until sometime taking a mortgage


oh i thought you meant 30,000 in USD. well i don't know too much about housing outside of New York, but i do know it's less expensive than what it is in New York.

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go to Canada instead ,... : free health care , and we are welcoming everyone that isn't a stupid prick


the health care isn't free, people pay for it through taxes.

and it's called universal healthcare.
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Sounds good man, actually i dont think i would get in due to the assault charge thing ( i headbutted someone repeatedly for racially abusing a friend of mine) so possibly amsterdam is my easiest option.


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go to Canada instead ,... : free health care , and we are welcoming everyone that isn't a stupid prick



yeah my gf'ds parents moved to halifax but they are having job problems and i really dont want to deal with that cold
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the Red Light District in Amsterdam is closed now, so what's the point in going there.

you could go but you'll have to sex your hookers in private like everyone else now.
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#32
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the Red Light District in Amsterdam is closed now, so what's the point in going there.

you could go but you'll have to sex your hookers in private like everyone else now.



its not closed, and its better to have a country where you can get decent hash without having bits of plastic and crap in it, and im not into hookers yet but my hometown also has brothels anyway
#33
most of the cons you mentioned, except for healthcare getting and and friends) largely depend on where you live. There are are no government qualifications for being a private guitar teacher (at least not where I am) you just need to convince people to hire you.
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**** i thought it was in canada or are there two different Amsterdams?


there are probably a few towns in North America called Amsterdam, but the one everyone talks about is in Holland.
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its not closed, and its better to have a country where you can get decent hash without having bits of plastic and crap in it, and im not into hookers yet but my hometown also has brothels anyway


a 3rd of it was closed. i read it a long time ago and forgot it was only a 3rd not the whole thing.

hey where i live in new york plenty of people have plenty of hash with minimal amounts of plastic
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#37
please stop making these topics about moving to america... it just leads to fruitless hate by people from Europe... just because they believe what is told to them through their sources.... yes America is not perfect.... nothing is... and our government needs some changing...
"You've got to trust your instinct
And let go of regret
You've got to bet on yourself now star
'Cause that's your best bet" - 311
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please stop making these topics about moving to america... it just leads to fruitless hate by people from Europe... just because they believe what is told to them through their sources.... yes America is not perfect.... nothing is... and our government needs some changing...

...i don't think anyone has posted hate about america yet.
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Quote by Andr00
Alright i might move to the U.S. for various personal and other reasons including the UK was meh now its pretty bad with jobs/money/taxes/law and order etc. Im trying to weigh up the pros and cons

advantages

stuff is very cheap
employment/job situation isnt as severe as the UKs (in terms of percentage of the nation unemployed)
Houses are often very large (great for home studios)
Musicians are very good and plentiful
food is better than the UK


disadvantages

Healthcare system
Lack of friends
Psycho rednecks and religious nuts
Guncrime
difficult to get in (got an assault charge 10 years ago after a bar brawl)
difficult to get set up as private guitar teacher (not sure what qualifications are required)
homesickness
insane freak weather

Any americans who have lived in other countries able to comment. If i were to move where would be ideal (want something not too far from a major city but chilled out and suburban)



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im sorry i didnt bother reading it, but it usually ends up with President Bush as a picture trying to say that we all think like him...
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And let go of regret
You've got to bet on yourself now star
'Cause that's your best bet" - 311
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