#1
Well im making a 2X12 cabinet to go along with a peavy valveking 100 head (not 100% set on this yet, still deciding)

my question- what are some fairly inexpensive ($50-80 max) speakers that would work with it? if any for that price.

sorry for amp noobyness


edit- i googled and i found some speakers but im not sure if they're right for the set up
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what ohm your looking on the speakers?also were you located?

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what ohm your looking on the speakers?


considering the valveking can be set for 4,8, or 16. then whichever you think would work best for me.

and this will be for mostly my home and gigs in a medium sized auditorium.
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are you in usa?

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yup, sure am
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I would suggest for you to go to craigslist and ask for beginners amp and that you will pay 30$ for it, you could get some nice offers of beginners fenders amps with 10" and 12" speakers in them, go on the net and find out what OHM do does models have and use does you can always switch them for better ones as time passes if you feel you need better higher quality and sell the practice amps back.

anyways that's just me and my DIY guitar setup thinking, but hey 2 fender speakers for 60$ or less not bad heh?

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#7
ill check that out, i noticed some $40 (i think) fender speakers on guitar centers website.


what watt should i be looking for?
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that i have no idea, i would wiki that if i was you.

I had made cabs before out of other old amps and never had any problems or bother to check with what or how many watts, but you should get another opinion on this

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#9
50W or higher, since each will only be handling half the load. The closer to 50W they are the more speaker distortion you'll get at higher volume, so if you don't want speaker distortion you should go for some 100W speakers or something.
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50W or higher, since each will only be handling half the load. The closer to 50W they are the more speaker distortion you'll get at higher volume, so if you don't want speaker distortion you should go for some 100W speakers or something.


so if i get 50s i cant play clean?
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you can play clean but not at high volumes, it would sound really nice if your head is tube i love that tube distortion

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you can play clean but not at high volumes, it would sound really nice if your head is tube i love that tube distortion


so if the two 50s wont blow up with it that means four 25s could work too?

i only want to do two but i felt like asking anyways
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Yeah, pretty much. So long as their RMS handling is the same as the amp's RMS handling.
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woah... what is RMS?
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Is that what you want to spend for each speaker? If so I'd go for some Warehouse Veteren 30's. Awesome speakers for valvekings.
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im checking those out, what would be the difference between how a 8 and a 16 ohm would sound?
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I like the Eminence Private Jack and Governor speakers in their Redcoat line, but I don't know if you want British sound. They're about 90 a piece, so pushing it a bit.
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I like the Eminence Private Jack and Governor speakers in their Redcoat line, but I don't know if you want British sound. They're about 90 a piece, so pushing it a bit.


im mainly looknig for something that will work with effects well, and will distort without losing the tone of the guitar.
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Look up Dave Avatar and then buy 2 Hellatone speakers from him. Hellatone are Celestion speakers that have gone through a "breaking in" process and I believe they cost about $80 (the brand new Celestions are about $150).

I would recommend a Hellatone 30 and a Hellatone 60. the 30 is a Celestion G12H-30 and the 60 is a Celestion Vintage 30. I actually like the G12H-30 better, but it does not have as much output, so I'd get one of each.
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Look up Dave Avatar and then buy 2 Hellatone speakers from him. Hellatone are Celestion speakers that have gone through a "breaking in" process and I believe they cost about $80 (the brand new Celestions are about $150).

I would recommend a Hellatone 30 and a Hellatone 60. the 30 is a Celestion G12H-30 and the 60 is a Celestion Vintage 30. I actually like the G12H-30 better, but it does not have as much output, so I'd get one of each.


i googled and found nothing, or do you mean a member of UG?
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im checking those out, what would be the difference between how a 8 and a 16 ohm would sound?

There's not really a difference in sound between impedences. I prefer them over Celestions because they don't have that mid spike.
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im checking those out, what would be the difference between how a 8 and a 16 ohm would sound?

It's not about tone difference, it's about what your amp requires.

If your amp needs a 16 ohm cab attached, and you're using a 4x12", it makes sense to use 4 16 ohm speakers, because you can wire 1 pair in parallel to get 8 ohms, wire the other pair like that, and then wires the pairs in series with each other, to get 16 ohms.
This way, if you got a fullstack, you could wire the cabs in parallel to get an 8 ohm impedance, which pretty much every head will also take.
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^He's talking about Dave, on avatarspeakers.com.

Why are you set on the Peavey VK 100? It's a spectacular amp, and if I HAD to buy a VK, I'd just go for the 112 combo. Spending more than that would mean I have the cash for a better amp than the VK.



well i was going with the head because i can get the materials to make the cab (excluding speakers) for free, and i really enjoy building things like nonspeaker cabinets, shelving, etc.

what other combo would you suggest? for around $600
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well i was going with the head because i can get the materials to make the cab (excluding speakers) for free, and i really enjoy building things like nonspeaker cabinets, shelving, etc.

what other combo would you suggest? for around $600


Either a Bugera of some sort (People say they suck and are unreliable, that's just untrue. They have an amazing warranty, and 90% of all problems are caused because either a) they didnt listen, and they never tightened the screws inside the chasis, and a part fell out and broke or b) they didn't listen and they never biased the tubes <- is the leading cause of messed up Bugera's.), or a B-52 AT 112.
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any otheres? im checking those out
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well i was going with the head because i can get the materials to make the cab (excluding speakers) for free, and i really enjoy building things like nonspeaker cabinets, shelving, etc.

what other combo would you suggest? for around $600

Check out a Randall RG50TC.

used Mesa F-30, used Mesa F-50. You could get a Peavey JSX head for around 600-700 dollars, off eBay. Then build your free cab.
#30
when buying used what should i look out for?

like things that could be broken on it
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2 60w speakers that will give you enough headroom because the head is 100w
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when buying used what should i look out for?

like things that could be broken on it

ask them when the tubes were last replaced. If it wasn't in the last year or so, ask them to knock down the price around 30-50 bucks.

Obviously, try it out, see if there's any excessive noise, make sure the level of gain is fine, no volume fluctuations..
#33
so how easy is it to find tubes for a specific amp? and is it easy to replace


just a what if, say if i find a amp thats really cheap because it doesnt have tubes or something
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so how easy is it to find tubes for a specific amp? and is it easy to replace


just a what if, say if i find a amp thats really cheap because it doesnt have tubes or something



it's simple. I highly recommend www.thetubestore.com

you can email them the type of amp you have and the type of sound you want, and they'll give you the tube recommendations. I picked out some tubes and told them I wanted more clean headroom in my Fender Blues Deluxe (whoever said these amps have sparkly clean tone out of the box was a liar) and they recommended me some tubes that were actually $50 CHEAPER than the tubes I had picked out. The Tube Store is top notch.

replacing tubes isn't a problem at all. but if your amp uses, say, 2 power tubes and 3 preamp tubes, it's going to probably cost close to $100 to replace them all. also, don't know if your amp has an adjustable bias control for new tubes, so that's something to consider too.

somebody recommended a Mesa F-50. I was thinking about buying one of those used. which is more versatile, an F-50 or an Express 5:50?
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#35
thanks for that link.

im still deciding on a head though
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