#1
new amp. i have up to 600-700ish.

my current options:

5150 combo with 2 12s. my favorite so far
JSX with 2 12s.
bugera 6262 with 2 12s. heard bad stories about reliability.

i want to play heavier music, but want to have cleans available. combo prefered, and tube. any other amps?

Thanks in advance guys

EDIT:
also looking at mesa f30 or f50
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Last edited by mustangrobert13 at Dec 30, 2008,
#2
jsx
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#3
I played a JSX, didn't like it at all to tell you the truth. 5150 looks like it's the way to go. I've heard bad things about reliability on the Bugera as well.
#4
Misleading title.

I made sure I got a drink before I read this thread. What a waste.
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jsx has the cleans though
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#6
What type of metal are we talking about here? That will help you choose also. But I am going to give you a biased opinion and say F-50. I <3 mine.
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#7
JSX.

There are tonnes of tonal options to discover in that amp that you can't hear in 10 minutes of playing it.
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What type of metal are we talking about here? That will help you choose also. But I am going to give you a biased opinion and say F-50. I <3 mine.


Agreed, and nice signature lol.
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Quote by jarudy
You cant really go wrong getting a mesa as long as you try it and make sure it works for you.

Not true.

A lot of people (including me) tend to think the Rectifiers sound very buzzy and have a mediocre, flubby bass. You can dial in a decent tone, but IMO, they're not worth the price tag. Even if you do pay such a high price tag, you shouldn't have to spend long hours dialing in a good tone.
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Agreed, and nice signature lol.


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Quote by jarudy
You cant really go wrong getting a mesa as long as you try it and make sure it works for you.


The F series is very versitile. Immaculate cleans, where if you throw an OD ontop of them you get great blues tone. The drive is great for classic/alternative rock. Once you engage the Contour you are in the metal realm, throw and OD ontop of THAT to REALLY tighten it up. I did that tonite for the first time....holy f*uckballs, that did a lot for my tone.
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#12
thanks guys, im considering the JSX more now.
and not crazy metal, more hard rock and metallica is probably the heaviest ill ever use it for


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#14
Damnn man I hate you
Almost everyone whose looking for a new amp in my/your pricerange of $600 says they could afford hte JSX
but my GC still has the jsx for 1600 and i love it
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my buegera hasnt given me any problem
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#18
i like the mesa f series, but i shopping pretty much only on my local craigslist/pawn shops.

and this JSX is a crazy good deal, Mesas rarely pop up


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#19
Quote by mike.h
Not true.

A lot of people (including me) tend to think the Rectifiers sound very buzzy and have a mediocre, flubby bass. You can dial in a decent tone, but IMO, they're not worth the price tag. Even if you do pay such a high price tag, you shouldn't have to spend long hours dialing in a good tone.


Hmmm - sounds like another special person forgets about the actual use of a "rectifier": swapping between a SS (silicone diode) and 1, 2, or 3 tubes, depending on the model.

The diode option gets rid of the "flubbiness" or sag with a flip of the switch, not to mention the switch for spongy , and bold.

Another reason could be the speakers, 'tho I've never used a mesa combo.
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Hmmm - sounds like another special person forgets about the actual use of a "rectifier": swapping between a SS (silicone diode) and 1, 2, or 3 tubes, depending on the model.

The diode option gets rid of the "flubbiness" or sag with a flip of the switch, not to mention the switch for spongy , and bold.

Another reason could be the speakers, 'tho I've never used a mesa combo.
The diode setting makes the lowend less flubby, but it's still there no matter what. The only way I've been able to deal with the loose bass on Rectifiers was to keep the bass dial at 10 o' clock, put EL34's in the power section, and run an od pedal up front.
In all honesty, my JSX killed a Triple Rec. in a side by side comparison.
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^... for $600?
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#24
If you want Cleans go with the JSX.. Also the Triple might be a good option for you as well if your looking for something a little more brutal on the rhythm side of things.

Havent played a Mesa F series yet but from what I here there a great option as well..
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The diode setting makes the lowend less flubby, but it's still there no matter what. The only way I've been able to deal with the loose bass on Rectifiers was to keep the bass dial at 10 o' clock, put EL34's in the power section, and run an od pedal up front.
In all honesty, my JSX killed a Triple Rec. in a side by side comparison.


I guess if we're talking about a combo amp, I can't speak for it.

But with the triple recto head, speaker cab is everything. The oversized Mesa cabs do indeed produce a very "flubby", loose low end

But if you stack it on top of a stilletto cab the bass is super tight.

This sounds like a patented Mesa - hater line 'tho, since everyone knows it's cool to hate on the more expensive, more widely used gear. Well, more widely used for a reason.

And for the record, a line like "In all honesty, my JSX killed a Triple Rec. in a side by side comparison.." kinda reeks of mesa-hatemanship. I'd never make a comment like this, and would instead refer people to netmusicians.org to listen to quality mp3 samples comparing amps.

Yeah, those Jsx clips are ummm... (XD) something... wow...
#26
Quote by mike.h
Not true.

A lot of people (including me) tend to think the Rectifiers sound very buzzy and have a mediocre, flubby bass. You can dial in a decent tone, but IMO, they're not worth the price tag. Even if you do pay such a high price tag, you shouldn't have to spend long hours dialing in a good tone.

did you not notice he said AS LONG AS YOU TRY IT OUT AND MAKE SURE IT WORKS FOR YOU.


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Quote by mike.h
Not true.

A lot of people (including me) tend to think the Rectifiers sound very buzzy and have a mediocre, flubby bass. You can dial in a decent tone, but IMO, they're not worth the price tag. Even if you do pay such a high price tag, you shouldn't have to spend long hours dialing in a good tone.

This statement makes it look like you think the only amps Mesa makes are the Rectos, but almost every other amp they make is better and either less prone to flub (Stiletto) or not at all (Mark series, F series, DC, Express)
Then there's this band called Slice The Cake...

Bunch of faggots putting random riffs together and calling it "progressive" deathcore.
Stupid name.
Probably picked "for teh lulz"

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Quote by Shinozoku
This statement makes it look like you think the only amps Mesa makes are the Rectos, but almost every other amp they make is better and either less prone to flub (Stiletto) or not at all (Mark series, F series, DC, Express)

I said Rectifiers for a reason. I know Mesa puts out a lot of great stuff (Stiletto, Mark series).
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Well, to be fair, some people like the Rectos, and you can get some insane sound out of it, just not nearly as good as every other amp they make So really, I suppose a correction of the post you were responding to is "You can rarely go wrong with a Mesa".
Then there's this band called Slice The Cake...

Bunch of faggots putting random riffs together and calling it "progressive" deathcore.
Stupid name.
Probably picked "for teh lulz"

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