#3
no.

Now, if you bought something like a metal muff with the valve junior you can get good metal tones.

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#4
Prob not. It more of a bluesy sounding amp. Maybe a gain-pushing pedal?
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#7
maybe if your pickups had more than 500 times the output of emgs, then maybe, just maybe you could get a metal tone.
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#8
What didn't you get the answer you were looking for?

Will it do Classic Rock?- Yes
Will it do Metal? - No
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#9
you'll need a lot of help getting a Epi VJ into metal, it's just not gonna happen with out pedals.

The closest to metal I've heard from a 5 watt amp without help is the Blackstar HT-5H on Overdrive Channel
#10
Stock without pedals it wont come close to metal. But with a good pedal many more posibilities. And of course it can be modded alot. But as it only has 5 watts it doesnt have alot of head room. But dont expect deathmetal out of it cranked.
#11
The valve junior, even with an overdrive pushing it in front, will not ever be able to do metal.

Sure, if could do metal if you put something like a metal muff in front but then whats the point of getting a tube amp if your just gonna run a distortion pedal?

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#13
I've got one, and love it. But its NOT for metal, if you crank it and have a good EQ it can get some sick punk tones, but thats bout as far as it'll go w/o mods/pedals.
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#14
With a POD XT Live it does great metal
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#15
What if i throw down a metal muff in front of it?

so what if i crank it to the max and use a metal muff will i still get tube tone out of it?
#16
Not really about just cranking it to max. Dial it in and find the sweet spot. The sweet spot usually isn't maxed.
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#17
it'll do black sabbath-esque tones quite well, imo
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#18
The best metal tone I've heard from a VJ was with a ZVex 'Box of Metal' up front, and the volume knob rolled back far enough to keep it mostly out of it's natural distortion. The overdrive characteristics of a single ended class A amp are not close to what is generally acceptable as a metal tone and the frequency response of the VJ is very difficult to work around. The 'Box of Metal' has an on board EQ that serves as a very effective workaround for these problems.
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#19
in a word, no. even with a pedal, as kendall says, the tone of the VJ is more or less the complete opposite of what you need for metal (certainly modern metal), so you need a pedal that can let you get round that, and also to keep the volume pretty low...
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#20
The valve junior won't do metal on its own. A roland cube 60 will do metal much better than the valve junior and sound better doing it. With a metal pedal you might get metal tones from a valve junior. You could heavily mod a valve junior and get it to do metal but it would need much more than the usual resistor and capacitor changes. You would need to add at least one more preamp tube and then carefuly voice each of the four gain stages to get a usable metal tone.
#21
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The best metal tone I've heard from a VJ was with a ZVex 'Box of Metal' up front, and the volume knob rolled back far enough to keep it mostly out of it's natural distortion. The overdrive characteristics of a single ended class A amp are not close to what is generally acceptable as a metal tone and the frequency response of the VJ is very difficult to work around. The 'Box of Metal' has an on board EQ that serves as a very effective workaround for these problems.


+1

And to add if you want metal in a small package your gonna have to get a Krank Rev Jr.
#22
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No. Honestly I wouldn't even use it for rock, it sounds like garbage stock.


Really? Garbage? That statement is not even remotely true.

The Epi Valve Jr is a great little amp even stock. Your'e not gonna get Slipknot distortion without a good pedal. I use a Metal Muff in front of mine and I can get fantastic distortion.

Your best bet is to try one for yourself instead of asking on this forum. People's opinions are just that....opinions.
#23
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Really? Garbage? That statement is not even remotely true.

The Epi Valve Jr is a great little amp even stock. Your'e not gonna get Slipknot distortion without a good pedal. I use a Metal Muff in front of mine and I can get fantastic distortion.

Your best bet is to try one for yourself instead of asking on this forum. People's opinions are just that....opinions.


Yes really, I think it's garbage. I guess if you like a harsh muddy crunch then the VJ would be your thing because that's all I got from it. I've owned 2, one I left stock which sits and collects dust now and the other one I modded to no end and it took adding an EL34 and redoing a number of things in the preamp which at that point it wasn't a VJ anymore, eventually I sold it anyways. With a pedal into it clean I'd agree it's fine, but I would never use that amp on it's own.
#24
I admit I don't use the VJ much on it's own, but with my POD it just rocks. I'll take this setup over any other modeler out there and you can include the vast majority of SS amps to that as well. I'm 100% happy with the way this low cost little amp takes to modeling and pedals.
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#25
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Yes really, I think it's garbage. I guess if you like a harsh muddy crunch then the VJ would be your thing because that's all I got from it. I've owned 2, one I left stock which sits and collects dust now and the other one I modded to no end and it took adding an EL34 and redoing a number of things in the preamp which at that point it wasn't a VJ anymore, eventually I sold it anyways. With a pedal into it clean I'd agree it's fine, but I would never use that amp on it's own.

i will take it a step further than you, even with the amp clean i think it sounds nasty. i hoenstly cant stand the amp, i would take a voxx valvetronix over that amp any day of the week. thats my opinion though.
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#26
You can get metal out of a valve jr. but you need some pedals. i use a Boss Metalcore and an eq to get metal tones out of it. I keep the volume on the amp fairly low to keep the amps distortion down and let the pedal do the work. This means most of your tone is coming from the pedal not the amp. my advice is if you want just a metal amp dont get a Valve Jr. If you also want the sweet crunchy classic rock distortion that comes out of the amp on its own, get a jr. but on its own, the best you can get is classic rock, sabbath and AC/DC.