#1
I do it, and I'm definitely not bad at guitar, but some people say it's like cheating. it really isn't, if it works I see nothing wrong with it. And if you don't know, people do that to dampen the strings extra noise. Andy James does it, he's not bad, look him up on youtube, he's better than 90% of guitarists. I don't see how it's cheating.
#2
It's not really cheating IMO, just makes it a lot more forgiving if you're playing a solo. I only see a real use for it in recording though, as live you would have to piss about moving it on and off to play open stuff.
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#3
Herman Li does it.
You don't want to be like him, do you?

There's your answer.
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#6
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Herman Li does it.
You don't want to be like him, do you?

There's your answer.

Satch does it when recording, does that mean he sucks too?

ginjaninja, how's that cheating? It's not a game, it's playing music...
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#7
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Herman Li does it.
You don't want to be like him, do you?

There's your answer.


Sam Totman does it actually .
herman says on the ultra beatdown dvd

"a cloth(/sock whatever it is) cos sam can't mute his strings properly"
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#11
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It is cheating. Take it off, I bet you have numerous bad habits.
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#14
Cheating doesn't exist in music. If it sounds better then by all means do it.

Cheating does however exist in this stupid ****ing guitar skills fight that seems to continuously plague this forum.
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#15
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Cheating doesn't exist in music. If it sounds better then by all means do it.

Cheating does however exist in this stupid ****ing guitar skills fight that seems to continuously plague this forum.

This.

I believe MAB and Jennifer Batten do it too.
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#16
I agree Mr Turnip. I like to play and listen to music that sounds good. End of story.
#17
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you asked for our opinions on it, and now your angry??
Haha, no I'm not angry at all, I may seem like it cause I'm typing, but I'm not angry by any means. I was curious, I'm still gonna do it no matter what anybody on here says anyway.
#18
I wonder who thought of this. How does it work and what the hell does it do. It's not like a capo.
#19
It mutes open strings so that when you play, you dont have unwanted string noise in the background. I use it sometimes, and I don't feel that it is cheating.
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#20
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I wonder who thought of this. How does it work and what the hell does it do. It's not like a capo.
You take a headband and put it around the top of your neck, tighter the better, and then it dampens the sound of open strings if you accidentally pull off when you're not supposed to while shredding or something like that. I never heard of doing it when someone plays slow or chords or anything, but it helps a lot while shredding.
#21
It really helps while recording, especially if you're on a tight schedule, but you've got to be able to play it properly live too IMO.
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#22
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Haha, no I'm not angry at all, I may seem like it cause I'm typing, but I'm not angry by any means. I was curious, I'm still gonna do it no matter what anybody on here says anyway.


Then why are you even asking for opinions? I just tried it for the first time, and it feels kinda odd for me. I prefer muting with my palm. Do what you do though, if it's your thing then stick with it man.
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#23
Looks like a great idea to me. If it works for you then do it. I will try it myself sometime.
#24
it would encourage bad habits if you use it, otherwise i dont really care.

its your guitar, its your music, your choice.
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#25
It's not cheating. It DOES make it easier to play, and I wouldn't hesitate to record a solo like that. I've even seen a few players (Guthrie Govan for example) use one live when he feels he's going to have a sloppy day (too much to drink? )
#26
Theres no cheating, but there are shortcuts.

Sure, you sound better short term, but long term if you rely on shortcuts you don't develop playing skills to the same degree, shortcuts can only get you so far.

Theres nothing wrong with a shortcut here or there, but when you come to depend on it, it drastically hinders your own progress.

Thats how I see it.
#27
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It really helps while recording, especially if you're on a tight schedule, but you've got to be able to play it properly live too IMO.

This.

It just helps when you're recording. And I bet that Andy James guy you posted only uses it in recording. I bet he kicks his ass of live, though, which means he's put in hours and hours and hours to just get muting down, and only uses it to be absolutely sure a recording sounds the best he can get it.

#28
I think it looks tacky if you do it live, but when you're recording its a brilliant idea and I recommend it, honestly.

If Marty Friedman and Satch do it... well let's face it, who the hell are you to say it's not a good idea?

If you don't like it then it's your deal.
but dont rip on someone if they do it.

It'f like argueing the whole "Can you use your thumb for chords?" deal.

Chet Atkins did it. Tal Farlow did it
so why can't I?
#30
lol omg! I can't believe someone thinks that's cheating. I hate cheaters :@:@ maan that is soooo not cheating dude guy. God that is so gay. :|
#31
im not sure but i was waching a video of whatshisname from meshuggah fredrick i think and eh had like the bottom three strings or something taped up ( but i think thats juts cause he was using liek the top 4 strings)
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#32
Don't use it to practice or anything like that, but hey if you want to tighten up your solo a bit and sound a bit more professional on a recording then by all means go ahead. Just make sure you can still play a solo cleanly without it. Use the band to PERFECT an already clean solo.
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#33
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Theres no cheating, but there are shortcuts.

Sure, you sound better short term, but long term if you rely on shortcuts you don't develop playing skills to the same degree, shortcuts can only get you so far.

Theres nothing wrong with a shortcut here or there, but when you come to depend on it, it drastically hinders your own progress.

Thats how I see it.


This.
#34
I guess its ok for recording, but I don't think relying on it is a good idea. It just promotes not playing cleanly.
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#35
I'd prefer to learn the good habit of actually knowing how to mute my strings. It would be embarrassing borrowing someone's guitar at a jam and saying, "Hey, do you have a sock or something I can mute the strings with? Cause I don't know how."
Always better to learn the good habit than getting lazy and going the easy way.
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#36
I think its cheating, anyways it won't help your technique get any better.
#37
never heard of it, probably a good thing.
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#38
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Herman Li does it.
You don't want to be like him, do you?

There's your answer.

Herman Li only does it in the studio, which is understandable for anyone recording, whether they be ameteur or virtuoso guitar players. Synyster Gates of Avenged Sevenfold, however, does it live most of the time.

About the TS's question, no, it isn't really cheating, but in my book, it's a sign of inexperience. Usually, anyone who has been playing for 3 - 4+ years shouldn't need that.
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