#4
I didn't think that it was very punk at all. It's FAR too laid back.

It's exactly the same principle as paying a prostitute for an action-packed rough f*ck but getting a massage from a little old arthiritic oriental woman instead.
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Quote by original=punk
Most jazz in itself is very punk.

Kenny G excluded. That piece of **** sucks.

Kenny G can S my D!

(c wut i did ther)
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Not if it's a jazz bass. Onlythe small minded use things for their intended use.



I ocasionally slide across the fretboard with a battery to make a mooing sound, am I still cool?
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Greg Ginn, he does sick jazz-punk stuff.


I´ve heard that often, I also use that as an argument when people say punk musicians are stupid, though I won´t call it jazzy myseld, just because he uses dissonances and some strange scales he´s not a jazz musician
#17
Greg Ginn does not do "jazz-punk stuff". Like lavazza said, he's dissonant, but there's nothing about his playing that resembles jazz guitar.
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I've been trying to get into jazz lately. Anyone ever heard of Sun Ra? Punk rock jazz musician.

He's weird, from what I heard. He's more like a precursor to electronic music than jazz.
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Greg Ginn does not do "jazz-punk stuff". Like lavazza said, he's dissonant, but there's nothing about his playing that resembles jazz guitar.



I have 4 of his current band's albums. All 4 are different types of punked up JAZZ. Sometimes texas swing, jam band, etc.
http://www.myspace.com/txcorrugators
http://www.myspace.com/jambangmusic
http://www.myspace.com/gonethemusic
http://www.myspace.com/mojackmusic

I know my Greg Ginn stuff.
#20
Punked up jazz? Sorry, no.

I'm not denying that Greg Ginn plays jazz, as it seems you assumed. I'm denying that he plays "jazz-punk" as his jazz work is exclusively jazz based and his punk work is exclusively punk based.

So let me reiterate: Greg Ginn does not play "jazz-punk".
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Quote by RizzoWashburn
Punked up jazz? Sorry, no.

I'm not denying that Greg Ginn plays jazz, as it seems you assumed. I'm denying that he plays "jazz-punk" as his jazz work is exclusively jazz based and his punk work is exclusively punk based.

So let me reiterate: Greg Ginn does not play "jazz-punk".


Have you heard a traditional jazz player play with the ferocity (best word I guess, i'm tired) he plays with?

Even jazz-fusion doesn't sound this rocky.
#23
Quote by lavazza
Jazz punk is a weird genre anyway, the closest I´d say is trivial......Television, since they often use dorian scales, have a simple "topic" as rhythm guitar and a bass.......though also in this case it doesn´t really fit both genres

I can't think of any Television songs that use dorian scales.
#25
A mode is a type of scale. Modal music is different from key-based music. One can solo using a modal scale whether or not the song is modal.
#26
Quote by werty22
I can't think of any Television songs that use dorian scales.


The Friction tab on UG, seems to be good, and the riff, where he goes down, that´s I think a good example, furthermore I´m not perfectly sure, but I think the solo of Prove it is dorian
#27
There's a scale run with a sharp sixth at the beginning of Friction, so I guess that could count. I don't remember any dorian stuff in Prove It, but maybe I'm wrong. They use mixolydian scales more often though.
#28
Yeah, I've always thought of Television as a primarily mixolydian-using band
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#30
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mixolydian is a typical bigband solo scale I think, so at least it counts as "jazzpunk" (a genre which doesn´t really exist for me)

I see mixolydian moreso in fusion than I do in "bigband" pieces.
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#31
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I see mixolydian moreso in fusion than I do in "bigband"
pieces.

I play bass in a big band I have two good friends playing the sax there on the top of the sheets there´s always the scales the propose to imrpovise and every second says mixolydian, though to be honest we don´t play so much swing
#32
Hmm, interesting. I'll admit that I don't play much big band music but what I have played I don't recall using mixolydian.

Ah well
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#33
Quote by RizzoWashburn
Hmm, interesting. I'll admit that I don't play much big band music but what I have played I don't recall using mixolydian.

Ah well


shhhh....don´t tell the others, but I play whatever comes under my fingers in that band.......I can make it sound really jazzy
#34
haha, yeah, my gutiar teacher told me that if I'm doing a improv jazz solo, and I get lost, for forget the chord change, then play chromatically till you find the note. It actually works well.