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I heard that Dragonforce recorded fire and the flames at like half the tempo than it is on the record. Is that true?
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I heard that Dragonforce recorded fire and the flames at like half the tempo than it is on the record. Is that true?


No.
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That's not trivia. That's a rumor that's next to common knowledge. Even if it's not true, DragonForce definitely doesn't seem capable of playing their own songs live. In tempo, in tune, or otherwise.
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That's not trivia. That's a rumor that's next to common knowledge. Even if it's not true, DragonForce definitely doesn't seem capable of playing their own songs live. In tempo, in tune, or otherwise.


Fail.

They can, I've seen them do it; it's just that ONE video on youtube and that dire Betcha Can't Play This that gave them that reputation.
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THANK YOU !!!!! Finally someone agrees with me that DragonForce sucks live


Everyone agrees with that. thats a consensus between everyone whos ever been to a Dragonforce show.
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Dragonforce is fine live... anybody who has seen them will tell you the same.
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imo they suck period
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Fail.

They can, I've seen them do it; it's just that ONE video on youtube and that dire Betcha Can't Play This that gave them that reputation.


I never bothered watching them live on YouTube. I've seen them live on three occasions, much to my dismay. Everything sounded off in some way save for the drummer, who's pretty ownage in my opinion for having the stamina to practically blast beat for eight minutes straight for every song.
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I never bothered watching them live on YouTube. I've seen them live on three occasions, much to my dismay. Everything sounded off in some way save for the drummer, who's pretty ownage in my opinion for having the stamina to practically blast beat for eight minutes straight for every song.


So the stamina of the guitarists means nothing to you then? Either way, I have also seen them live and they did just fine; a little sloppy in parts but nowhere near as bad as everyone makes out.
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they also run around and do high kicks so i dont expect them to play perfectly when i see them live.

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I never bothered watching them live on YouTube. I've seen them live on three occasions, much to my dismay. Everything sounded off in some way save for the drummer, who's pretty ownage in my opinion for having the stamina to practically blast beat for eight minutes straight for every song.



are you a glutton for punishment or sadist or something? (why see them 3 times if you hate them?)
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I've seen DF a few times live, and they were always perfect... only on the Graspop video on YouTube have I seen them fail (they were probably drunk).

And no, they recorded it how it is, but not all at once. Rumour has it that Li actually recorded himself improvising in several hotel rooms between gigs, stitched them together, and called it TTFatF.
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I was there! That was a bloody good show. It might just be a laugh and the solos may be complete wankery but Li's much better than people give him credit for...couldn't hear Totman for shit at the time though.
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Fail.

They can, I've seen them do it; it's just that ONE video on youtube and that dire Betcha Can't Play This that gave them that reputation.


I've seen them live... It was a great show, and I enjoy Dragonforce...

But They couldn't pull off ANY of their faster solos...

They sucked live.
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I've seen them live... It was a great show, and I enjoy Dragonforce...

But They couldn't pull off ANY of their faster solos...

They sucked live.

In the words of (I think) Foamy the Squirrel, shut up. Recordings are people who have done the song at least one hundred times, and they pick the one that is best. Then they shove it through a computer so it sounds nothing like the original recording. You then criticize them for not being able to recreate it note-for-note live? Heck, even if they have all the talent in the world, I'm sure they'd mess up just from being caught up in the experience.

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In the words of (I think) Foamy the Squirrel, shut up. Recordings are people who have done the song at least one hundred times, and they pick the one that is best. Then they shove it through a computer so it sounds nothing like the original recording. You then criticize them for not being able to recreate it note-for-note live? Heck, even if they have all the talent in the world, I'm sure they'd mess up just from being caught up in the experience.

So please, think before you show off your lack of intelligence


Actually, if I may play Devil's Advocate for a minute...

Dragonforce are RELATIVELY sloppy live; the rhythm is usually pretty damn tight and most of the solos are good but there are the occasional duff notes. Bands like Dream Theater, Cynic, Atheist <insert long list> pull off some much harder stuff flawlessly live but by the same token they do kind of...stand very still. DF consciously choose to trade the technicality for entertainment because they REALLY DON'T take themselves as seriously as all their detractors seem to.

To summarise: they can be sloppy but it's such a good show who cares?
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Actually, if I may play Devil's Advocate for a minute...

Dragonforce are RELATIVELY sloppy live; the rhythm is usually pretty damn tight and most of the solos are good but there are the occasional duff notes. Bands like Dream Theater, Cynic, Atheist <insert long list> pull off some much harder stuff flawlessly live but by the same token they do kind of...stand very still. DF consciously choose to trade the technicality for entertainment because they REALLY DON'T take themselves as seriously as all their detractors seem to.

To summarise: they can be sloppy but it's such a good show who cares?

Like I said, getting caught up in the moment
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That's not trivia. That's a rumor that's next to common knowledge. Even if it's not true, DragonForce definitely doesn't seem capable of playing their own songs live. In tempo, in tune, or otherwise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXk4pJ3Orw8&feature=PlayList&p=2DD8341F5C2863E1&playnext=1&index=12

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Like I said, getting caught up in the moment


Hooray for a balanced argument!
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are you a glutton for punishment or sadist or something? (why see them 3 times if you hate them?)


I was never there to see them, specifically, save for the first time. On the first occasion, I just wanted to see them live. Was sorely dissapointed. Second time was at MayhemFest. Main stage. There were like, fifteen bands playing that I enjoyed. I didn't mind listening to them. Third time, my friend's band opened for them.

But I don't hate DragonForce. Their studio stuff is listenable even if it gets old pretty fast and all their music sounds really similar. I just don't like them live.
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THANK YOU !!!!! Finally someone agrees with me that DragonForce sucks live


I dunno. I saw them on a cold winters morning, just before dawn. They sounded pretty good. Then I again, I was soooooo far away from the stage I couldn't see them playing, so who knows?
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They play it live at the same speed.

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Yes. They play it at the same speed. And a fraction of the accuracy.

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I dunno. I saw them on a cold winters morning, just before dawn. They sounded pretty good. Then I again, I was soooooo far away from the stage I couldn't see them playing, so who knows?


HAHA nice one.
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They finally quit getting drunk before the show. They can do it now.


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#40
no they didn't play it at half temp, what they did do however is play all of the complicated parts one measure at a time and edit together with protools.
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