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#1
So.... Hello Everyone

I bought a Schecter Hellraiser with Floyd system a while ago now..... and, well i never
used a floyd before..... and well i soon realize this:

The floyd is good cause:
You can do great vibrato
You can bend up a string
You can get awsome sounds with it

The floyd sucks cause:
Is unstable
Hard to tune
if you break a string, well.....
AND.....YOU CAN NOT DROP D!!!!! or change tunning as a matter or fact

As i stud ingeniering i stated to look for a solution on my own for the last 2.........
i realized that..... if i wanted to forgot about those i must stop the tremolo somehow
and if so i had to loose some of the advantages from the floyd (I DONT CARE!!)
so i did the next.

Tune you guitar well (EADGBe)
(if you can set up properly the guitar first and use new strings is better)
I took out the cover from the tremolo
i mesured the distance between ... the tremolo metal mass and the guitar, but from the
piece that is on the side of the Springs
I put a piece of papper to fill that space (wood would be better, but i did this and 23 pm at night lol)
Close that

Now......
The tremolo is not going to be able to go backwards (I didnt care)
Now the trick
you know those things that block the strings on the security nut?
well the one on the E and A string tight it with your hand so you can
tight and untight by hand. Now ans you stop and need to change tunnings
you just untight and drop D and tight againg. DONE!!!!!!

Now you have:
The floyd is good cause:
You can do great vibrato down (with wood) (if you use paper as i did you can vibrate up a little)
You can get awsome sounds with it (well half of the ones you could)
Is stable
easier to tune
if you break a string, you can keep on playing
AND.....YOU CAN DROP D!!!!! or change tunning as a matter or fact

The floyd sucks cause:
You can bend up

LOL

Tell me what you think lol
Last edited by marianoarnaiz at Jan 9, 2009,
#2
Congratulations, you just blocked your trem.
Seriously, people have been doing this for years.
Last edited by littlephil at Jan 9, 2009,
#3
dude, learn to spell check.. and i think this post is in the wrong forum?
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#4
AND.....YOU CAN NOT DROP D!!!!! or change tunning as a matter or fact


Wrong.

I drop mine all the time. Here's how you do it -

Lock all the bolts at the nut except the lowest one.

PROBLEM SOLVED! I tune back and forth during sets like that and it never falls outta tune, man.

And yes - you blocked your trem. I've done that to two of my guitars.

And yes - you should use spell check.

Or learn to spell.
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#6
Está bien. Pero tampoco has descubierto américa

Eso lo hace también el tremol-no en uno de sus modos
#7
Well Yes people stop the tremolo but the stop it completly, i stop it half the way so you can still use the floyd as a standard tremolo, but better, boy well you are right

Sorry on the spelling too lazy to do it
#8
Sorry on the spelling putas de mierda, i life in a country where we speak spanish, so i dont care, i post this to help some one with the same problem and not the same imagination as me.....ok? not for those who check post at ramdom
#10
um, dude, no one looks, it's called a searchbar, we're smart and use it.
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#11
Im not mad but is not the point of the post, is just for helping others, i get i have gramma and spelling problems but is not the point
#14
So you say
Sorry on the spelling putas de mierda, i life in a country where we speak spanish
after you say
Sorry on the spelling too lazy to do it
.


Way to debunk your own defense. Damn.

Y yo hablo español tambien, pero no es una excusa para pereza, amiga.
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#15
well maybe not, but there are people that surf the forums just to bug around.......i know my post is not exactly but if you dont have that problem and no money is a fast solution actually i did it in 5 minutes 1/2 an hour ago
#18
AMIGO (si hablas español sabes que mariano es masculino)
la verdad lo hice pq no me parece que sea la idea comentar sobre esas pendejadas
esta bien decier OH no descubristes america y tal..... o cosas como yo usaria madera, pero no
hablemos de la ortografia mi pana para que, ya mucho que me puso a ponerlo en el foro
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#24
Seriously, this is nothing new, and it probably looks like you stuck a piece of paper under your bridge.

lame.

If you have a floyd, set it up properly and use it, or block it properly.
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#25
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Military and absolute time work on 24 hours dude

If its 24 hours you dont put pm there.
#26
wow. ur cool.
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#27
I did set it up properly, but i didnt like to use it to go up..... and i wanted to drop D my guitar without problem...... so i did what i did...... if you dont like it is not my problem
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By the way 23 pm, 23 post noon......can you use a clock?



Well, there is no such thing as 23 AM (by the way, it isn't post noon, it's post meridian. AM is anti merdian.) because you are using a 24 hour clock, where there is no need for distinction between AM and PM....

And, I'm glad you figured this out, but not only has everyone else, there are entire companies devoted to this.

Anyways good for you, but if you did post this to help people, you should make sure they can understand it. Otherwise, what's the point of help?
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#30
Quote by marianoarnaiz
AMIGO (si hablas español sabes que mariano es masculino)
la verdad lo hice pq no me parece que sea la idea comentar sobre esas pendejadas
esta bien decier OH no descubristes america y tal..... o cosas como yo usaria madera, pero no
hablemos de la ortografia mi pana para que, ya mucho que me puso a ponerlo en el foro


I read it as Maria. Minor error, and I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you, AMIGO, when the basic fact is you made a lame excuse for your bad spelling.

And your idea about stuffing the bridge with paper isn't going to last, because humidity and usage will put pressure on the paper, as well as wilt it, and it'll leave your trem uneven.

Find a better way before you act like you're awesome.
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#32
Easy easy easy way.

Tune the low E string so the fine tuner is quite tight then you lock it down.
When you want to go to drop D, just lower the E string with the fine tuner.

Also, if the Floyd is Unstable get it set up properly.
Sounds to me like it isn't set up.
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#33
why the hell do people keep buying guitars with floyd roses if there such a nuisance? sure u can make some annoying noises once and a while but i just don't see why them over other trem styles....if someone has an answer please tell me because im really confused
#34
Quote by BucketHayden
why the hell do people keep buying guitars with floyd roses if there such a nuisance? sure u can make some annoying noises once and a while but i just don't see why them over other trem styles....if someone has an answer please tell me because im really confused


People use them because, compared to classic synchronised tremolos, they have superior tuning stability, and they have a much wider range of movement than most other trems. They are the reasons most people prefer Floyd Roses over ordinary tremolos.
#35
Quote by WH15P3R
Easy easy easy way.

Tune the low E string so the fine tuner is quite tight then you lock it down.
When you want to go to drop D, just lower the E string with the fine tuner.

Also, if the Floyd is Unstable get it set up properly.
Sounds to me like it isn't set up.


Yes, but it would raise pitch of the rest of strings, getting them out of tune
#36
Learn what a floyd rose is and how to use a hex wrench before buying a guitar please?
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#38
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Yes, but it would raise pitch of the rest of strings, getting them out of tune


The difference is so minute that it's hardly noticeable. For recording i probably wouldn't do this but for just practicing/possibly even playing live, imo it works well enough.
#40
Quote by Invader Jim
Know the easiest way to drop-tune? Fine-tuner on the low E. Loosen it until the E becomes D. Done.


I've heard that the tension changes and the floyd doesn't sit flush with the body if you do that, but I'm not 100% sure.
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