#1
Ridiculously simple, but I've found this works brilliantly on my all my bolt-neck guitars. It seems to make the guitar sustain more, sound better, and feel more 'alive'. It's especially noticeable in the unplugged tone.

Here goes:

Simply loosen all the screws holding the neck on by about a quarter turn, then tighten them back up again.


You'll then probably need to tune back to pitch. You might also hear a slight creak when you do this, that's a good sign. All you're really doing is setting the neck as tightly into the pocket as possible. Does anyone else do this, or just me?

I know some pro setup guys/luthiers use this trick all the time guitar they do, and you'll even find it mentioned in some G&L guitar manuals.

Hope this tip helps
Kyle


DISCLAIMER: I really suggest you don't exceed about 1/4 turn on the screws though, removing the tension while strung to pitch won't do your guitar any favours...
#3
Sorry man but I htought this was REALLY obvious, I've been doing it for a long time. Like since I had been playin for a month.
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#4
I've had to do this to straighten out the neck on my guitar once (the strings and neck weren't aligned). I didn't notice an audible improvement in sustain.

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#5
Wow dude this is such a good tip

Never thought of doing something like that before!
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#6
ill try this.

sicne the sustain on my jackson is balls anyways why not?
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#7
Haha, I assumed most people did it - but my mate was round the other week while I was setting up a strat copy, and he was utterly bewildered.

Works especially well if you've had to put a neck shim in a guitar.
#8
I have honestly never heard of this, ever.
I'll try it.
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#9
i noticed absolutely no difference, acoustically or plugged in
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#11
so, what is the theory behind this though?... i got to try this to my cheap squier strat... the neck wobbles and its as tight as the screws will go!
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#13
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i noticed absolutely no difference, acoustically or plugged in

Probably means the neck was already snug in the pocket...
#14
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Probably means the neck was already snug in the pocket...


probably so.

the neck has never been removed so thats probably why.
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#15
well this is a new one on me! i'll bear it in mind defo. thanks!

is it safe to do it on basses? not that I need to, but if I ever fancied it.
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#16
So you do it with strings in tune or loosening them first?

Wouldnt it damage the wooden thread in the neck?
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#20
Can some one explain to me what exactly loosening a screw and then doing it back up again will do to sustain?




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#21
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Can some one explain to me what exactly loosening a screw and then doing it back up again will do to sustain?


the neck will fit tighter in the pocket, and the vibrations will go through that joint easier.
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#22
How will the neck fit tighter? You could just tighten it up more than it already is... And I don't want to crack my neck or anything from excess screwing.
#23
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And I don't want to crack my neck or anything from excess screwing.

Me neither
#24
I see conflicting info.

If this works by setting the neck tighter into the pocket, how does it work better with a shim? Shims slightly angle the neck heel, thus creating a narrow gap between the bottom of the pocket and the neck heel.

How did you figure this out? How is it common knowledge? I've never EVER heard of this. I'm always dismantling my guitars and I never noticed any difference...

TL;DR: wtf?
#25
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And I don't want to crack my neck or anything from excess screwing.

I had that once, girlfriend said she was sorry, but i just told her to get on top instead.
Ontopic: This might be a solution for people with a loose screw, but there's no way that it will increase sustain any better. It's still the same wood and still the same screws, so unless you removed the neck and replaced the screws with something more sound conductive, (ie. specialized bolt/washer assembly) there's not going to be a difference.

It's like taking a marker and writing 11 on all your knobs, expecting everything to be louder. It's just not plausible.
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#27
I took my Kramer's neck off in the process of cleaning it and deepening the trem pocket a while back. I did notice it felt sturdier once I put the neck back on, but I noticed no difference in sustain.
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#28
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If this works by setting the neck tighter into the pocket, how does it work better with a shim? Shims slightly angle the neck heel, thus creating a narrow gap between the bottom of the pocket and the neck heel.



Purely from a hypothetical standpoint, I would assume that when you screw in the neck again It pull the neck in tighter, increaseing the surface area of the neck in contact with the body.
so if there's a shim in the pocket, and it's made of some compressible material like card or something, or if it can dig into the surrounding wood, wouldn't there be more potential surface area in the neck pocket to gain by having tightened screws?
#29
You should periodically tighten all bolts/screws etc on a guitar as the wood expands/compresses naturally over time.
#30
do you do this with strings on? i could see the string tension pulling the heel tight up against the body making a more solid contact. interesting, but i dont know if im gonna do it to my guitar
#31
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do you do this with strings on? i could see the string tension pulling the heel tight up against the body making a more solid contact. interesting, but i dont know if im gonna do it to my guitar


That is teh only thi9ng that I can think would be the result.

The strings will try to pull the neck, straight down into the body, if possible. Then when you tighten the bolts, its stays that way.

I guess it depends how elongated/snug the bolts are in the body.

That would be the theory anyway. As to if it makes any discernible difference, I do not know.
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Ontopic: This might be a solution for people with a loose screw, but there's no way that it will increase sustain any better. It's still the same wood and still the same screws, so unless you removed the neck and replaced the screws with something more sound conductive, (ie. specialized bolt/washer assembly) there's not going to be a difference.

It's like taking a marker and writing 11 on all your knobs, expecting everything to be louder. It's just not plausible.

It's not the screws themselves that result in the increased sustain, it's tightening the screws to make sure the neck and body of the guitar fit together tightly so as to allow a transfer of vibrations from the neck to the body more efficiently. On a well maintained guitar there shouldn't be any increase in sustain because the neck screws should already be tight. Tightening the neck screws however, is an often neglected practice of guitar maintenance so tightening the screws should yield results for most people. It's a practice that most assuredly does work and therefore should be practiced regularly. Just because you don't understand the mechanics behind something doesn't mean it doesn't work. It is healthy to have a certain level of skepticism when hearing new things, it prevents people from believing all sorts of ridiculous bull****, but to believe something isn't true just because you can't wrap your head around it is just as ridiculous. Next time you express any opinion make sure you fully understand what you're talking about, because people can tell when you don't.
#33
^ I find this hard to believe

Sustain means that the strings are vibrating for a longer period of time

the strings are suspended between two points, for the largest amount of sustain the two points should be frictionless,

there for having the body and neck 'transfer vibrations more efficiently' is counter productive as the more vibrations the body and neck absorb, the higher the dampening of the strings will be.

There for logically you want most importantly the nut and the saddle to absorb and transfer as little amount of vibrations as possible.

Unless guitars dont follow my understanding of physics?




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