#1
Can you copyright a song as "Untitled" or "Tittle Pending"

And can you change/add lyrics, tittle and notes in a song after it has been copyrighted?
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Last edited by Banana Man at Jan 10, 2009,
#2
not sure but you might want to at least properly spell it: Untitled....

otherwise it sounds like you are talking about boobs
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Can you copyright a song as "Untittled" or "Tittle Pending"

And can you change/add lyrics, tittle and notes in a song after it has been copyrighted?


Why copyright it before you have completed it? Have you played it publicly without a title, a complete song, or copy protection? If so then that's stupid haha.
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Why copyright it before you have completed it? Have you played it publicly without a title, a complete song, or copy protection? If so then that's stupid haha.


I didn't say I'm playing it live I just want protection over what I have started before it hits the stage or other members.
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#5
Title doesn't matter to the copyright office. All that matters is melody and lyrics.

I'm not entirely sure on this, but I don't think you can update it. You would have to register a new copyright for it.

What's the point in copyrighting an unfinished song anyways? In my opinion, that is money wasted, especially since by the time you're done with the song, most of it will either be changed or trashed. And, when you do finish, you will want to copyright again, therefore you have spent much more money on useless protection. How many people are honestly going to steal a half-written song? Factor in the fact that unless they either copy your lyrics or blatantly steal your melody, you won't have a case, and the answer becomes clear as to whether you should copyright now or wait.
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#6
your being paranoid. are you a popular band? somehow i doubt it. and if your not popular, chances are nobody is going to want to steal your **** anyway, for the simple reason that if you havn't gotten anywhere off it, why will they? and if you are a popular band, then your gonna have a paper trail so long, you wont be able to see the end for the curvature of the earth. so either way, your pretty much covered.
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#7
Copyright exists automatically. There is no need to "register" a song as such. As soon as you write the lyrics/melody the song comes into being and it's copyrighted.

The problem lies when 2 artists have the same song and claim they both wrote it. At this point it lies on both parties to present evidence of when they wrote it (songwriting diaries, witnesses, or registration with a publishing company) and the judge will decide who gets the song and ultimately the money.

You cannot copyright a name, just because U2 wrote a song entitled "Beautiful Day", it does not mean that no-one else is allowed to write a song and called it "Beautiful Day".

And you can feel free to change your song around as much as you want.

Edit: Dunjma I wouldn't be so sure about that paper trail. There's thousands of artists out there who would love to steal your songs, despite the fact that you haven't yet made a name for yourself. Who knows whats going to be the next big thing?
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#8
I'm gonna write a song called 'Tittle pending' now.

Seriously though Banana Man, what would be the point? Are there people around you that would steal your music and record it and use it for their own gain?
Are you a well known musician who's written material instantly has market value?

Y'see, if you've written something that's not even titled yet, it's pretty likely that it hasn't been played to the public yet as well, so, even if your paranoia is justified, how is anyone going to get access to your work to steal in the first place it if no one's heard it?
All you need to do is keep any written material to yourself until it is recorded, then copyright it.
#9
It's nice to see a copyright thread that I don't have to wade into because of a ton of misinformation.

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#10
Just on a side note. Sigur Ros released an album entitled: ( )

All the tracks were untitled.

There have been numerous examples of bands releasing songs titled: Song #3 (or whatever). There's books out about this stuff, check out "How to make it in the New Music Industry". Well worth a read.
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