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#1
Im presenting a sminar in front of my media class on the state of the music industry, and i would really appreciate if you guys took the time to lend your thoughts on the issue.

Heres a few questions to get you started.

What do you think about the talent pool in todays music?
What do you think about downloading?
HOw do you think the music industry should combat illegal downloading?
Does the loss of revenue for your favourite artists concern you?


Thanks guys.
#2
What do you think about the talent pool in todays music? Srsly, It sucks.
What do you think about downloading? Less CD. More MP3. More Vinyl.
HOw do you think the music industry should combat illegal downloading? By making more vinyl records.
Does the loss of revenue for your favourite artists concern you? Most of them are dead.
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#3
What do you think about the talent pool in todays music?
JONAS BROTHERZ!!1

What do you think about downloading?
Downloading = the only source of music

HOw do you think the music industry should combat illegal downloading?
Death sentence as soon as you download 100 tunes

Does the loss of revenue for your favourite artists concern you?
NO HAHAHAHA I DON`T GIVE A SHIATTTTTTTTTTT
#4
What do you think about the talent pool in todays music?
What do you think about downloading?
HOw do you think the music industry should combat illegal downloading?
Does the loss of revenue for your favourite artists concern you?

1. Its draining quickly.
2. More positive then negative.
3. They shouldn't.
4. Yes. Thats what keeps me up at night. The fact that people will make tens of millions instead of hundreds of millions scares the living **** out of me.
#5
the talent pools is fine, the problem is the music industry attempting to homogenize everything to make it easy to sell.

Downloading is a great way for artists to reach a broader fanbase, especially in areas where the only places to buy CDs are the local Wal Mart

The industry should embrace filesharing as a marketing tool.

no, most of them haven't lost that much.
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#6
I'm gonna say use the search bar for once without being a dick about it. A month or two ago there were some seriously good discussions on this. I'm sure you can find 'em.

(Keep in mind that Your Favourite Artists™ make peanuts off their CD sales.)

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#7
1. I think there's a lot less talent in the business today than there was say 30 years ago. There are still a lot of talented artists today but they dont get the recognition that they should. Also, theres an apalling lack of musicianship in popular music.

2. Im not a huge fan of downloading, but it hasnt caused me too much trouble so i guess im indifferent to it.

3. Dont know how to answer that one.

4. I agree with DirtyMakik, most are dead or retired.
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#8
1. Flourishing, some of the most innovative and interesting artists exist today.
2. I think it's fine, art shouldn't cost money in the first place.
3. They should do nothing, most of the music industry is made up of scumbags who don't deserve a dime anyways.
4. I did at first, but I've built an immunity to remorse. And besides, most of the bands I listen to are going to be broke either way.
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#9
Hey, i dont want this to be a question answer thing. Just trying to spurr a discussion that i can draw from when i go up there and start talking.
#11
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What do you think about the talent pool in todays music?
What do you think about downloading?
HOw do you think the music industry should combat illegal downloading?
Does the loss of revenue for your favourite artists concern you?



1.The talent pool is great. There are a lot of talented artists out there.
2. Its convenient
3. Go Digital, have cheaper prices
4. Artists make more money through concerts, and people should buy the music of more unknown artists.
#12
What do you think about the talent pool in todays music?

it's varied. you're always gonna have less talented artists, and extremely talented artists. usually the talented, more unique artists are the remembered ones.

What do you think about downloading?

I don't do it as much anymore. If I really like an album and am influenced by it, I will buy it.


HOw do you think the music industry should combat illegal downloading?

not really sure, that's for them to figure out.

Does the loss of revenue for your favourite artists concern you?

no, they are either dead or crazy rich, or I go support them at a show, buy their merch, etc.
#14
What do you think about the talent pool in todays music?
Terrible. The thing with the industry is that they all have their own models of what a band should be like, so they will try to manipulate and mould them into their product to make some fast cash.

What do you think about downloading?
It's alright, I suppose. I'm starting to prefer the physical side of music, though. Plus it's devastating across the board for bands when their music leaks or is downloaded, and I'm not too keen on that.

How do you think the music industry should combat illegal downloading?
They should work with it, or at least try and come up with a system for torrents etc. Other than that, they really can't stop it.

Does the loss of revenue for your favourite artists concern you?
Yes and no. Yes because the only source of revenue, really is merch and touring. No because if they have a terrible contract then most of the money goes straight to the label from everything else.
#15
There have been many conversations on downloading and its effects on the music industry, which might help you out if you spend the time to search for them.

And i pretty much agree with JoshRocker on everything.
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#16
I study music business and part of a college label and it kind of ruins being a fan if you actally work/study the business
to sum it up its very sneaky and lucritive, but a necessary evil becuase I dont think anyone would like a world without as much music as we have today.
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#17
What do you think about the talent pool in todays music?
Garbage. Record companies want something that will sell records. They want bands/artists that will make money. They don't care about the music, the fans, nothing. And if no one cares about the music, the music will suck.

What do you think about downloading?
If the band is good, then downloading a few songs isn't a big concern. Because then a person might buy the album just to support the artist, or merchandise, or tickets to the next concert. If bands crank out the same soulless crap over and over, it will be downloaded, hated, deleted and they will never get a dime of my money out of spite.

How do you think the music industry should combat illegal downloading?
If they were smart, they'd find a way to embrace it and make money from it. It isn't going away so stop fighting it.

Does the loss of revenue for your favourite artists concern you?
If a band is good, I will buy the album, the t-shirt, the concert tickets, etc. I support the music I like. If they are still losing money, then that's not my problem.
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#18
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(Keep in mind that Your Favourite Artists™ make peanuts off their CD sales.)


Indeed. Back in the day bands used to tour to promote their records, making most their money from record sales. Nowadays the record (CD) is mainly used to promote the band, with most their money made from touring so it's all got flip-turned upside down.

This is according to what i learned back in college anyway.


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#19
1) Talent in the music industry is hard to find. Its usually what sells is what is on the radio. Once in a while you can find the needle in the hay barn that has talent.

2) I download almost all of my stuff. Money is tight [especially for a teenager].

3) Stop releasing CDs, or just get the fuck over it.

4) No. A true musician wouldnt care about if they lose a few ten thousand if it means that people are listening to thier music.
#20
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I'm gonna say use the search bar for once without being a dick about it. A month or two ago there were some seriously good discussions on this. I'm sure you can find 'em.

Found one of them.: https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1012994

The other's easy to find. It's called "Can the music industry learn from porn?" or something like.

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#21
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What do you think about the talent pool in todays music?
-Garbage. Record companies want something that will sell records. They want bands/artists that will make money. They don't care about the music, the fans, nothing. And if no one cares about the music, the music will suck.



but theres lots of great new music out there, most people are just too lazy to look for it.
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#22
What do you think about the talent pool in todays music?
Everything just kind of sucks.

What do you think about downloading?
Thats all I ever do, tbh. Althought I have purchased a few CDs in the past.

HOw do you think the music industry should combat illegal downloading?
**** that. There are more important matters to be dealing with.

Does the loss of revenue for your favourite artists concern you?
No. Not really.
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#23
What do you think about the talent pool in todays music? terrible, underrated bands like Nocturnal Rites Deserve more Exposure.
What do you think about downloading? Do it sometimes, just to check a band out.
HOw do you think the music industry should combat illegal downloading?not much ya can do.
Does the loss of revenue for your favourite artists concern you? if you download something with no intent to buy it, they loose no money.
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#24
What do you think about the talent pool in todays music?
It's pretty good. It's the same has its always been. Some talented artists, some not so talented artists, and the maufactured artists.
What do you think about downloading?
It's great. It's a good way to get into a band and will eventually become the number one legitimate way of getting music.
HOw do you think the music industry should combat illegal downloading?
It's tried combating it and failed miserably. It should be embraced by the music industry and the major record companies should be looking at ways to use it, instead of ignoring it and insisting on the dead format of cds.
Does the loss of revenue for your favourite artists concern you?
It doesn't concern me about the loss of revenue for my favourite artists as that isn't where they get the majority of their money.
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#26
Quote by Kid_Thorazine
but theres lots of great new music out there, most people are just too lazy to look for it.


I was thinking about the music to get massive radio play. There are plenty of bands out there today who are great, but they are hard to find, and that sucks ass.

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Well played, sir. And very true.
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#27
Quote by PinkFloyd73
Hey, i dont want this to be a question answer thing. Just trying to spurr a discussion that i can draw from when i go up there and start talking.


In that case, I believe that many artists don't take enough risks as musicians. It seems to be popular these days you have to be a gangsta rapper, a hot blonde pop singer, or a pop-punk 'band.' A lot of popular artists seem to fit one of those three categories.
#28
Quote by ~Moby Dick~
Albums should be sold a lot cheaper, and concerts should cost more.


ahh so you don't think $100 for decent seats to arena gigs is enough?
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#29
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What do you think about the talent pool in todays music?
Terrible. The thing with the industry is that they all have their own models of what a band should be like, so they will try to manipulate and mould them into their product to make some fast cash.

Irony? Your last.fm appears to be made up of about 90% hair metal, one of the "trendiest" genres ever.
#30
1. I reckon the metal bands are doing just fine. The MTV scene however.....
2. Agree with JoshRocker.. It IS convenient but I still purchase albums from the discount bin.. The stuff I could actually afford..
3. Combat illegal downloading? Good luck with that!
4. Not exactly... But I do support local bands by purchasing their albums etc.
I just feel a greater need to support the local bands compared to international ones...
Don't ask me why.
#31
Quote by Kid_Thorazine
ahh so you don't think $100 for decent seats to arena gigs is enough?


well to be honest i have absolutely no idea about how much a band makes on concerts/tours. but if i wanted to see clapton or iron maiden id easily pay $100 for decent seats. probably a dumb statement though, i still think albums that cost $30 is bull**** for what you get.
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#33
What do you think about the talent pool in todays music?

Same as it ever was. I listen to popular music from then and now, and I've gotta say, it isn't much better in either time period.
What do you think about downloading?

A great tool for artists. Labels, not so much.
HOw do you think the music industry should combat illegal downloading?

Protip: DRM and copy-protection do NOT work.
Protip 2: Instead of combating the problem, attract buyers. You're wasting time and resources fighting it.

I don't like the music industry anyways.
Does the loss of revenue for your favourite artists concern you?

Nope. I hope it doesn't bother them either, because making music for cash is a stupid notion in itself.
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#34
Quote by Kid_Thorazine
the talent pools is fine, the problem is the music industry attempting to homogenize everything to make it easy to sell.

Downloading is a great way for artists to reach a broader fanbase, especially in areas where the only places to buy CDs are the local Wal Mart

The industry should embrace filesharing as a marketing tool.

no, most of them haven't lost that much.

Wal-Mart will order cds for you, you know.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Illegal downloading creates less money for touring, therefore less revenue for the band. It also makes the record industry want to only sign people who appeal to the age brackets which don't download, which is why there are so many disney bands out lately.
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#35
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Wal-Mart will order cds for you, you know.



only if it's in thier catalog, if I wanted to buy something from some obscure metal band I would have to order it online from a specialty dealer and likely have to import it, which casts a lot if you only import one album.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again. Illegal downloading creates less money for touring, therefore less revenue for the band. It also makes the record industry want to only sign people who appeal to the age brackets which don't download, which is why there are so many disney bands out lately.


the thing is, with the internet, labels aren't even that necessary anymore, anyone with a little upfront cash can put out a record and mp3s and generate enough buzz to get promoters to book them.
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#36
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only if it's in thier catalog, if I wanted to buy something from some obscure metal band I would have to order it online from a specialty dealer and likely have to import it, which casts a lot if you only import one album.


the thing is, with the internet, labels aren't even that necessary anymore, anyone with a little upfront cash can put out a record and mp3s and generate enough buzz to get promoters to book them.

And those who don't have the upfront cash?
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#37
What do you think about the talent pool in todays music?
the talent pool is great and diverse with different artists anyone can listen too
What do you think about downloading?
i would rather have a physical copy of the music but downloading is fine too
How do you think the music industry should combat illegal downloading?
honestly nothing the people who illegally download the music most of time wont even buy if they had too
Does the loss of revenue for your favourite artists concern you?
somewhat but alot of bands tend to get money from their merchandise also
#38
What do you think about the talent pool in todays music?
To be honest, I find most music in our mainstream media these days to suck. It just feels like the same songs over and over but re packaged and re-sold. There doesn't seem to be much originality.

What do you think about downloading? I have mixed feelings on this subject. I'm both for an against it.

FOR: Not every person on this earth is rich enough to go out and by albums. I know that there are plenty of albums out there that I'd love to have but I can't afford them and haven't been able to for ages. So maybe asking a friend to download the songs and burning them onto a CD is the only way that person can show their love and fanship for a band.

AGAINST: at the same time, there are bands that don't make a whole lot of money. Some struggle while others sit on mounds of it. You could take away from a band as big as, say, Metallica, but if you were to illegally download from a new and upcoming artist like Fall From Grace, because you illegally downloaded their album or songs, they suffer for it.

HOw do you think the music industry should combat illegal downloading?
I think they should go to a format that can't be recreated digitally.

Does the loss of revenue for your favourite artists concern you?
Yeah, severely. Not only does it put a lot of strain on our favorite artists, it also puts some of them in the possition of whether or not they will survive in the industry. if sales are terrible, that can cause some severe problems for the band.
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#39
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What do you think about the talent pool in todays music? Srsly, It sucks.
What do you think about downloading? Less CD. More MP3. More Vinyl.
HOw do you think the music industry should combat illegal downloading? By making more vinyl records.
Does the loss of revenue for your favourite artists concern you? Most of them are dead.


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#40
Quote by Jack Off Jill
And those who don't have the upfront cash?


are screwed anyway, if you can't afford the minimum cash it takes to set up your own promotion effort you aren't going to get the attention of any labels in the first place.
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