#1
Just got a nice parcel containing:
- GrooveTubes EL84 (rebranded JJs I hear)
- Seymour Duncan JB [yet to put in - can't wait!]
- AMT DT-2 DistStation
And some strings.

The main subject here is tubes.
I switched out the old TADs and put in the GTs.
The first thing I noticed, when removing the tubes, was the rust on TAD pins - surely that's not good?
I put in the GT, turned on the amp, and the GTs were glowing a LOT brighter then the TADs have ever done.
The GTs have IMMENSELY improved my tone. I'm shocked. My Drive channel has never sounded like this! All of my problems - solved!
If only Laney put decent tubes in there in the first place. All of the stock TADs were terrible [my preamp is now EH 12ax7]!

And the AMT DT-2 is a great pedal! Wonderful!

I finally have the best of all worlds - cleans, low gain, mid gain, and high gain. And it all sounds perfect.
The GTs have really let me hear the true sound of the amp!

I'm a bit annoyed that Laney aren't using the amp to the max!
Does anyone here still use TADs? - I'd recommend getting rid of them.
Sunn O))):
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Guitar:
- Ibanez S670FM w/ JB
- Fender 'Lite Ash' Stratocaster
- Fender '72 Deluxe Telecaster
- Arbiter LP Jr. Doublecut
Amp:
- Laney VC15

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Last edited by Simsimius at Jan 12, 2009,
#2
you should bias you amp first. it could be that it was biassed to low before, or that it's to high now.
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#3
Quote by Farether
you should bias you amp first. it could be that it was biassed to low before, or that it's to high now.


The amp doesn't need biasing.
It's fixed bias, or cathode bias, or something.
It's just that the old tubes were just really bad. And rusted.
Sunn O))):
Quote by Doppelgänger
You could always just sleep beside your refrigerator.

Guitar:
- Ibanez S670FM w/ JB
- Fender 'Lite Ash' Stratocaster
- Fender '72 Deluxe Telecaster
- Arbiter LP Jr. Doublecut
Amp:
- Laney VC15

'72 Tele Appreciation Group
RIP DIO
#6
Quote by Horlicks
I remember when I thought the same thing when I first changed my valves.


Thought what?
Better tone?
Does/doesn't need biasing?

If better tone, then the stock tubes are definitely really poor. My VC is perfect for the first time.
Sunn O))):
Quote by Doppelgänger
You could always just sleep beside your refrigerator.

Guitar:
- Ibanez S670FM w/ JB
- Fender 'Lite Ash' Stratocaster
- Fender '72 Deluxe Telecaster
- Arbiter LP Jr. Doublecut
Amp:
- Laney VC15

'72 Tele Appreciation Group
RIP DIO
#7
Hmm... TADs are known to be pretty nice.
If those GTs are rebranded JJs, I could see how it'd improve your tone though.
JJ makes an exceptional EL84.
Call me Wes.
Gear:
Fender American Deluxe HSS Strat
Chicago Blues Box Roadhouse
Bad Cat Cougar 5
1957 Gibson GA-5
Ceriatone 18w TMB Combo
Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor
Various Ibanez TS9s
Weber MASS Attenuator
#8
Quote by darkarbiter7
Hmm... TADs are known to be pretty nice.
If those GTs are rebranded JJs, I could see how it'd improve your tone though.
JJ makes an exceptional EL84.

TADs are bright though, am I right?
And Laneys are horribly bright to begin with.
#9
Yeah, I guess you're right.
Bright sounding power tubes + bright amp= Not good
Call me Wes.
Gear:
Fender American Deluxe HSS Strat
Chicago Blues Box Roadhouse
Bad Cat Cougar 5
1957 Gibson GA-5
Ceriatone 18w TMB Combo
Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor
Various Ibanez TS9s
Weber MASS Attenuator
#10
Quote by jarudy
^ Fixed bias doesnt mean it cant be changed, you know?
It's cathode biased.
The Laney Thread are big and clever. No exceptions.
#11
Quote by Horlicks
TADs are bright though, am I right?
And Laneys are horribly bright to begin with.


Quote by darkarbiter7
Yeah, I guess you're right.
Bright sounding power tubes + bright amp= Not good


Thank god I didn't replace them with another bright tube.
The difference in tone is huge. The harshness and excess treble has been eliminated. Everything is smooth and warm.
Maybe the stock TADs were also a bit worn out?

But god, I am relieved that my search for a good tone has finally reached an end. It now sounds the way it should.
Sunn O))):
Quote by Doppelgänger
You could always just sleep beside your refrigerator.

Guitar:
- Ibanez S670FM w/ JB
- Fender 'Lite Ash' Stratocaster
- Fender '72 Deluxe Telecaster
- Arbiter LP Jr. Doublecut
Amp:
- Laney VC15

'72 Tele Appreciation Group
RIP DIO
#13
Quote by jarudy
I meant to say that it CAN be changed. My mistake.
Oh I know, fixed bias and its ability to be changed is one of the many pieces of information on here that nobody seems to know, irritatingly
The Laney Thread are big and clever. No exceptions.