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#1
I'm selling my Peavey VK112, way too muddy. I want cleaner overdrives, I want to hear the notes. Peavey can't supply that. Orange can how ever, I love Orange amps, but they're too expensive for me. What kind of amp can give me a sound like Orange, is cheap, and would be good for small gigs (like loud bars, coffee houses, school auditoriums)?

Like cheap I mean $400 max probably.
#2
You can get a Palomino V50 from Musician's Friend for $350... they're sort of Marshally, which I guess is sort of Orangey.
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#3
I'm not a Marshall guy for some reason.

How are Peavey Windsors? They seem like they're made for some vintage things.
#4
Marshall JTM30?
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#5
Its the VK's speaker.
Replace it with a nice 100-200 dollar one and you'll get the muddy sounds out of it.
Honestly you aren't going to get anything very much better than a VK with $400

But who knows, UG might be able to find something for you.
Maybe something used..?
#6
Yeah, I'm looking through Craigslist and stuff, I really want a Bugera 6262 Half Stack, total costs like $800. Maybe I should save up or sell some crap.
#7
Replace the VK speaker with something good, like a Celestion G12T or an Eminence of some sort. That should sort out the mud, or maybe an EQ pedal could help some.
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Quote by TSelman
I'm not a Marshall guy for some reason.

How are Peavey Windsors? They seem like they're made for some vintage things.

Honestly i doubt it'd be much of an improvement from a VK.

You could always check out the Vox Valvetronix line. Orange is brit-voiced and i'd imagine the vox is mostly brit-voiced amps as well.
#12
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Honestly i doubt it'd be much of an improvement from a VK.

You could always check out the Vox Valvetronix line. Orange is brit-voiced and i'd imagine the vox is mostly brit-voiced amps as well.


I love Vox but not their Valvetronix lines. I really want an AC50, way above my budget still.

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Yeah, I'm looking through Craigslist and stuff, I really want a Bugera 6262 Half Stack, total costs like $800. Maybe I should save up or sell some crap.

you just gave yourself the best advice so far

also look into a B-52 AT-112 if you can't manage to spend more cash
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I'm not a Marshall guy for some reason.

In that case why do you want the sound of an Orange?
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#16
i would save $100 and get a laney LC15, or LC15R. or save 200 and get a Vox AC15 or a Peavey classic 30 (best choice IMO)
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#18
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In that case why do you want the sound of an Orange?


I hear a difference from Marshalls and Oranges.
#20
i own an orange and ive played marshalls...i wouldnt say orange is a marshall sound...they both fall under british voicing but they are unique. i liked the jcm800 for high gain **** but orange is tasty for everything...i'd get a tiny terror.
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#21
Quote by TSelman
I hear a difference from Marshalls and Oranges.

Both are very British, middy amps which are great for rock and if overdriven can be pretty decent for some metal.
That Vox will sound somewhat cleaner I guess - think The Who and AC/DC for Orange's spectrum and stuff like Oasis for the Vox.
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#23
Good luck finding a tube amp thats $400
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#24
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Good luck finding a tube amp thats $400


Not a good one.
#25
Get a used tiny terror and VJ cab or something like that. No pedal will sound like an orange.
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#27
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Just say no to Bugera. They're made by Behringer. Need I say more?

Click on the link in my sig, it compares a Bugera to a $2,000 Soldano. If theres that much of difference to you, ah well, your ears not mine. (I mean to say that there IS a difference, but which one is four times more than the other in price?)

Peavey Windsors are ****, I knew they would start getting recommended here. They may be cheap, but the cab is loaded with 4 POS speakers.

Reguarding the Valveking and a speaker swap, almost any amp with some high end speakers will sound a hundred times better. Replacing the speaker is still an option, its just that so many people say to swap tubes/speakers on VK's, and if I were to do that on almost any amp, it would sound spectacular.
#29
Quote by TSelman
I hear a difference from Marshalls and Oranges.


What Marshalls have you been trying?
#30
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What Marshalls have you been trying?


Sadly I've just played my friends MG series and that pushed me away from Marshalls a while ago.

Same thing happened with Schecter, people love 'em, I played my friends crappy one, and I hated Schecter.
#31
Quote by TSelman
Sadly I've just played my friends MG series and that pushed me away from Marshalls a while ago.


Oh dear.
Please do not let the awful first impression left on you by the MG colour your view of Marshall - their valve amps are totally different beasts. The JCM800 is one of the most important amps in history.
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#33
Quote by TSelman
Sadly I've just played my friends MG series and that pushed me away from Marshalls a while ago.

Same thing happened with Schecter, people love 'em, I played my friends crappy one, and I hated Schecter.


I was considering to say: "If you say that you played the MG series or the AVT series, I will slap you with a trout", but I realized the odds for this being true was rather high.

MG =/= Marshall.

It only says so on the front. It was originally another companies amp, and is nothing but a money making machine.

Take a good word of advice here and check out some good marshalls, I'd reccomend perhaps a JTM 30.
#34
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What Marshalls have you been trying?


They ARE different. Oranges are much darker. Marshalls are much more bright and broad sounding. Although yes, they are in the same class.
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#35
Marshall and Orange sound nothing like each other. If you think they do, you need to get your ears checked....
#37
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They ARE different. Oranges are much darker. Marshalls are much more bright and broad sounding. Although yes, they are in the same class.


Oh yes, of course they sound different, but as I suspected he's probably looking for a Marshall sound, not knowing that that is what is, considering he's only played an MG and judges if because of that.
#38
Save up some more money and get a Peavey Classic 30 and put a Celestion Vintage 30 in there.

All oranges use vintage 30s, so if you want your amp to sound closer to an orange, use a vintage 30. Any other speaker won't bring you as close to an orange tone.

You can always see how the v30 makes your vk sound.
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#39
I'd stay away from the AC15 - very limited amp, and not on the same level as the AC30.

So, used AC30?
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