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#1
hey pit, I got a wierd situation goin on here;
I'm in my school's variety show, as a guitarist of course. Now, Im a metal guy, i tried out with a metal song that i wrote and the director is an old friend of mine and KNOWS I'm big on the Metal (he also pulled me aside the next day and said i blew him away), but i got my assigned songs today, I was given a Punk song and a Country song, out of nine songs between four guitarists two were given two songs, one was given three, and another was given four. The two Seniors were both given two songs (me and a friend, who is also friends with the director) a Junior was given the three, and a SOPHOMORE was given the four
now i ask you Pit, what's wrong with this picture?
#2
It sounds like they're better than you.
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#3
If you are a metal guy what the hell are you doing trying out for a variety show?
#5
Talk the director, tell him how you feel and ask him how he came to the decision - but be prepared that you might not like the answer
#6
The director probably just doesn't want people to think he's biased towards his friends.
If music was the food of love I'd be a fat romantic slob.
#7
i can play other stuff, like my rtrout song started clean and broke in with the Overdrive, and no, Its clan im the best, he sophmore is a self taught wannabe with rich parents, the junior is an idiot with no real talent and the other senior is a punk guy


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The director probably just doesn't want people to think he's biased towards his friends.

here's the thing, we dont talk that much anymore, mostly because we're not in the same classes, but we were close in elementary and middle school
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#9
Stop complaining and prove yourself.

That way, you won't have to worry about this kind of underestimation next time.

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#10
I think this director has a lot of minor friends...

wink wink... nudge nudge... know what I mean?
#11
Maybe get out of the "I'm teh br00talz" mentality and try new music styles? Country is a great style for a lead guitarist.

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That way, you won't have to worry about this kind of underestimation next time.

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This is true aswell, you might even grow musically because of it.
#12
The Director know you're too good, and if you play too many songs, your sheer level of awesomeness would decimate the audience, which would be bad for future ticket sales.

Does that make you feel better?
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The Director know you're too good, and if you play too many songs, your sheer level of awesomeness would decimate the audience, which would be bad for future ticket sales.

Does that make you feel better?

That there was pretty ufckin funny.
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#14
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It sounds like they're better than you.


Quoted for emphasis. Seniority shouldn't overrule skill, and that's what it sounds like happened here.
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#15
just suck it up and play your songs damn ****ing good and show everyone else up.
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#17
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It sounds like they're better than you.


exactly. and what's wrong with sophmores? nothing.
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#19
I always get pissed off at stuff like that

but it doesnt sound like much variety, if theres just loadsa guitarists.
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#21
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It sounds like they're better than you.


Bingo. Maybe he arbitrarily assigned the music?
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#22
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i can play other stuff, like my rtrout song started clean and broke in with the Overdrive, and no, Its clan im the best, he sophmore is a self taught wannabe with rich parents, the junior is an idiot with no real talent and the other senior is a punk guy

That has nothing to do with it, and leads me to believe that you're just bitter. Besides, you didn't give a good reason for any of them to be worse than you - someone self taught can be a good guitarist.
An idiot can be a good musician, and talent doesn't equal playing ability - someone without natural musical talent can learn how to play well by rigorously practicing.
And you didn't even say anything about the senior, except that he's a "punk guy." I could just as easily say, "Well, he only got two songs because he's a metal guy."
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#23
Why not do the punk and country songs?

and maybe they are better than you. Like others have posted, seniority doesn't rule.

Just do it anyways and don't complain.
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#25
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I see no picture. I'm guessing since you capitalized "SOPHOMORE" that would be the problem.

Hmm, interesting observation, but that may have just been the final stress to accentuate the end of a long, emotional sentence.... I wish to find out how this unfolds.
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#26
you guys are getting me all wrong, i can play the stuff, but there are songs that are.. ya know, not punk or country (and they're in the show, mind you), and I'm like "you're killing me here man" and obviously a lot of you missed that point on me out classing them, i know all my theory, started out as a classical guitarist, but swapped out my accoustic for a nice midlevel ibanez and i shred it up now, its just waay more fun
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#27
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you guys are getting me all wrong, i can play the stuff, but there are songs that are.. ya know, not punk or country (and they're in the show, mind you), and I'm like "you're killing me here man" and obviously a lot of you missed that point on me out classing them, i know all my theory, started out as a classical guitarist, but swapped out my accoustic for a nice midlevel ibanez and i shred it up now, its just waay more fun

Well, if you really wanted to have a big spotlight in a school variety show, you probably shouldn't have played metal.
You really aren't going to see a huge turnout of Maiden fans there.
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#28
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you guys are getting me all wrong, i can play the stuff, but there are songs that are.. ya know, not punk or country (and they're in the show, mind you), and I'm like "you're killing me here man" and obviously a lot of you missed that point on me out classing them, i know all my theory, started out as a classical guitarist, but swapped out my accoustic for a nice midlevel ibanez and i shred it up now, its just waay more fun


Did you expect anything more than that? I honestly have no idea what your problem is and yet you still dance around the subject, clarify please: what the **** do you want from us?
#29
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That has nothing to do with it, and leads me to believe that you're just bitter. Besides, you didn't give a good reason for any of them to be worse than you - someone self taught can be a good guitarist.
An idiot can be a good musician, and talent doesn't equal playing ability - someone without natural musical talent can learn how to play well by rigorously practicing.
And you didn't even say anything about the senior, except that he's a "punk guy." I could just as easily say, "Well, he only got two songs because he's a metal guy."

the sophomore can play a few chords and powerchords (obviously). and has a 2000 dollar les paul custom and a Marshall JVM half stack, and he's been playing for maybe a year or two
here's an example, i head Peace Frog by The Doors was gonna be in the show, i profusely expressed my love of The Doors and the fact that i already know it, but they give it to the Sophomore. as for the other senior, he plays punk, what more is there to say, he knows a few scales and some jazz/ska chords but he is mainly I-III-V with an A minor pent
#30
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Did you expect anything more than that? I honestly have no idea what your problem is and yet you still dance around the subject, clarify please: what the **** do you want from us?

i wanted some people to agree with me that this isn't fair even though they claimed the distribution was "fair"


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Well, if you really wanted to have a big spotlight in a school variety show, you probably shouldn't have played metal.
You really aren't going to see a huge turnout of Maiden fans there.


i played a metal song for my tryout because it displayed my technical skills, it started of with some Jazzy stuff, then broke into a catchy Overdriven riff followed by a short shred solo, a tiny bit of tap, tehn some sweeps, ended with the main riff a quick scale run then a root chord
it was ~2:40
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#31
Seems that a fair judgement is served.
Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who...
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#33
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i wanted some people to agree with me


There's where you went wrong, we show no agreement, only hatred.
#34
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the sophomore can play a few chords and powerchords (obviously). and has a 2000 dollar les paul custom and a Marshall JVM half stack, and he's been playing for maybe a year or two
here's an example, i head Peace Frog by The Doors was gonna be in the show, i profusely expressed my love of The Doors and the fact that i already know it, but they give it to the Sophomore. as for the other senior, he plays punk, what more is there to say, he knows a few scales and some jazz/ska chords but he is mainly I-III-V with an A minor pent

That still has nothing to do with it. Besides, there's absolutely know way for you to actually know exactly what they know.
Kurt Cobain's songs where ridiculously simple, but he could shred. What you like to play doesn't dictate what you can play.
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i played a metal song for my tryout because it displayed my technical skills, it started of with some Jazzy stuff, then broke into a catchy Overdriven riff followed by a short shred solo, a tiny bit of tap, tehn some sweeps, ended with the main riff a quick scale run then a root chord
it was ~2:40

Oh. Well I don't remember stuff so good... I thought you'd said you'd played a strictly metal song.
Maybe the director wanted to give the other guys more practice.
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#35
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That still has nothing to do with it. Besides, there's absolutely know way for you to actually know exactly what they know.
Kurt Cobain's songs where ridiculously simple, but he could shred. What you like to play doesn't dictate what you can play.

no like he' shown me what he "can" do it its all stuff that you expect from someone who picked up the guitar to get chicks
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no like he' shown me what he "can" do it its all stuff that you expect from someone who picked up the guitar to get chicks

I'd assumed that much-I was talking more about the "punk" guy's abilities, accepting that the sophmore was just kind of a douche.
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#37
All I've gotten out of this thread is that you're clearly the best guitarist ever. Nobody in your school could ever match your abilities, and you should have gotten to play all nine songs, plus extended time to show off your ridiculous shred improv. With fireworks.

Was that what you're looking for?
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#38
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Maybe get out of the "I'm teh br00talz" mentality and try new music styles? Country is a great style for a lead guitarist.


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All I've gotten out of this thread is that you're clearly the best guitarist ever. Nobody in your school could ever match your abilities, and you should have gotten to play all nine songs, plus extended time to show off your ridiculous shred improv. With fireworks.

Was that what you're looking for?

no, I KNOW Im not the best ever (not yet anyway ), but I AM the best in the school and have proved it publicly more than once. and i dont want to play all nine, that's stupid, i just wish that they had distributed the song a little more fairly like: 3-3-3-2 (the other senior is also in comedy, so 2 for him)


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This guy knows what he's talking about.

i have no problem with country, but, I am not the one best suited for the song, my guitar has active pickups, so even with ZERO gain i still get some crunch when playing chords.
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#40
I find it ironic that you criticized the other guitarist because it was clear that 'he only picked up the guitar for the girls,' and here you are whining on an internet forum because you want a bigger spotlight to show off your amazing skills.

Playing guitar isn't about validation from your peers. If you've already 'proved' that you're the best guitarist at your school (and most likely proved you're the biggest attention ***** at the same time), what's the point?
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