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#1
i was just curious, are there solid state amps that just sounds awesome? like as good as a tube amp

reason im asking this is because tube amps are usually heavier and u have to change tubes and is more expensive..all that stuff
#2
line 6 vetta
line 6 flextone
roland JC-120 (for cleans)


that's mostly it as far as i can think. but they're all as expensive and as heavy as tube amps.

changing tubes isnt much of a bind, and if tube amps break theyre often an easier fix than SS/modelling amps
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Quote by stevo_epi_SG_wo
line 6 vetta
line 6 flextone
roland JC-120 (for cleans)


that's mostly it as far as i can think. but they're all as expensive and as heavy as tube amps.

changing tubes isnt much of a bind, and if tube amps break theyre often an easier fix than SS/modelling amps


line 6 really??
#4
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however i like the marshall valvestate 8080
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#5
well, there are some solid states that do sound just as awesome as you'd expect a tube amp to sound, but it's still a totally different sound.

that's another misconception that needs to be stamped out much like the "overdrive pedals are for tube amps!!" thing - tube amps aren't indefinitely better than solid states, they just sound different, and it just so happens that most people prefer tube. then companies like marshall make crap solid states aimed at beginners with more money than sense, and solid state gets a bad rep. It's all about which you prefer.

^^ Yes, line 6 are a very good company. The line 6 hate on this forum is from noobs who think a brand name reflects how good something is, and see long-standing active members saying "the line 6 spider is a piece of crap" so they go around saying "line 6 is crap" to try to look like they know what they are talknig about it. It's cute, in a pathetic sort of way. In a few words, i'm saying the solid state spider amps suck, but the rest of the stuff by line 6 is generally very good.
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#6
Quote by Antimage27
line 6 really??


hell yea

marshall are great at overdrive, but when they do it on the cheap (MG) it's horrid

line6 are great at modelling, but when they do it on the cheap (spider) it's horrid

the vetta is helluva expensive though, the flextone is moderate though, super versatile too.

i think the line 6 HD147 might be SS too
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Quote by Blompcube
well, there are some solid states that do sound just as awesome as you'd expect a tube amp to sound, but it's still a totally different sound.

that's another misconception that needs to be stamped out much like the "overdrive pedals are for tube amps!!" thing - tube amps aren't indefinitely better than solid states, they just sound different, and it just so happens that most people prefer tube. then companies like marshall make crap solid states aimed at beginners with more money than sense, and solid state gets a bad rep. It's all about which you prefer.

kinda like my MG100DFX ??
honestly how bad does it sound compare to other amps around the same price
#9
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line 6 really??

Just cuz it's Line 6 doesn't mean its bad. Line 6 SPIDERS are bad, not Vettas or Flextones. I've played on a Line 6 before, I'm pretty sure it was a Flextone, and it sounded pretty good.
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#11
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kinda like my MG100DFX ??
honestly how bad does it sound compare to other amps around the same price

i actually like the clean channel on the MG, combined with some good quality distortion and overdrive pedals it can sound pretty good, but you could do much better for the price with a tube amp - not just because it's tube, but because you generally get a better sound for your money from tube amps at this price range which is why everyone will tell you to go tube instead of solid state.
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#12
Isn't there some solid state Ampeg's that sound quite good from what I've heard?
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YES!

that can be seriously convincing on the net, not sure about live.

can it be used live? into the PA right?
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#15
Marshall Valvestate, slightly.

I have an MG but I wish I bought a Valvestate.

I couldn't find a valvestate amp at Guitar Center, so I bought an MG and then went to Sam Ash a few weeks later to see a Valvestate half stack sitting right there.

Don't get me wrong, I like my MG, but a Valvestate would be even better.
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well, there are some solid states that do sound just as awesome as you'd expect a tube amp to sound, but it's still a totally different sound.

that's another misconception that needs to be stamped out much like the "overdrive pedals are for tube amps!!" thing - tube amps aren't indefinitely better than solid states, they just sound different, and it just so happens that most people prefer tube. then companies like marshall make crap solid states aimed at beginners with more money than sense, and solid state gets a bad rep. It's all about which you prefer.

^^ Yes, line 6 are a very good company. The line 6 hate on this forum is from noobs who think a brand name reflects how good something is, and see long-standing active members saying "the line 6 spider is a piece of crap" so they go around saying "line 6 is crap" to try to look like they know what they are talknig about it. It's cute, in a pathetic sort of way. In a few words, i'm saying the solid state spider amps suck, but the rest of the stuff by line 6 is generally very good.

Not true, necessarily. The line six POD seems to be a decent multiFX unit, but the line six all-tube amps i've played (spider valve) are just as bad as the solid state spiders.
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YES!

that can be seriously convincing on the net, not sure about live.

can it be used live? into the PA right?



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#18
like the others said, marshall valvestates are pretty good as long as you dont turn the treble past 5, im not sure why, but they have a ridiculous amount of it. roland jazz chorus, the ampeg ibanezpsycho has, most good modeling amps/preamps (line 6 POD's, AxeFX, line 6 vetta, etc.,..) lets see, most of the old school randalls are pretty badass, the list goes on
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YES!

that can be seriously convincing on the net, not sure about live.

can it be used live? into the PA right?


yep, plug it into a good tube power amp and you pretty much have the most versatile rig in existence, all while having great tone as well.

It's just expensive, but I mean... $1500+$1000 for a VHT2/50/2 isn't TOO bad considering what you're getting...
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The Sunn Beta Lead is pretty awesome.
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Line 6 Vetta
Line 6 HD147
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H&K makes one as well but the name escapes me

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look into them old school ampegs. hell i was going to buy one, but decided on a 5150 instead.
#23
There's many solid state amps that sound awesome, but they can't replicate valve breakup.
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and then ibanezpyscho comes and saves the day!

look into them old school ampegs. hell i was going to buy one, but decided on a 5150 instead.




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#25
Quote by Yngwi3
There's many solid state amps that sound awesome, but they can't replicate valve breakup.


also tubes are more dynamic to your playing, while solid states have more stable sound, thats why even the best SS modelers can't emulate perfecly a tube amp, they usually just make the sound a bit warmer.
#28
The Line6 Vetta and HD147 sound bad. They do. Sorry to burst your bubble.


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#29
Hughes and Kettner used to make a SS model that could reproduce a tube sound to the point all but the most rained ear would know it wasn't a tube.
#30
JMF Electronics, an older company bought my Dean Markley in the 80's, made a pretty sweet line of "Spectra" amps. I've got an old Spectra 125 and the clean channel is to die for.
#31
Quote by ivan_2894
inexistant

however i like the marshall valvestate 8080

ignorance.

there are plenty of good SS amps. B.B. King even uses solid state amps every once in a while because Fender's Deluxe Reverbs started sucking when CBS bought Fender.

Roland JCs are awesome amps. plus, you don't have to deal with reliability issues like you have with some tube amps.

there are pros and cons to every amp. if there was not, then there wouldn't be different kinds of amps. for example, the Fender Twin Reverb is an awesome amp for cleans, but it need lots of volume to hit it's true potential. plus, the maintenance that comes with tubes can be difficult on a novice guitar player.

whereas, say, a Randall SS head has basically the same tone down or up, and beginner's don't have to worry about maintenance since solid state amps don't need hat much of it.

when it all boils down to it, tone is subjective. some people tend like solid state amps, some like Tubes. even players with similar tastes, like Zakk Wylde and Dimebag. dime used SS most of his career, whole Zakk used Marshall heads exclusively.
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#35
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The Line6 Vetta and HD147 sound bad. They do. Sorry to burst your bubble.


The absolute best are any of the Tech 21 amps and Sansamps. Period.


i agree that tech 21 and sansamps are nicer sounding but i dont not think the vetta or the HD sound bad.high end line 6 amps are a huge bang for your buck with 128 effects and settings. they sound a little digitl but nothing like a spider. imo tech 21 is the best as it has no digital parts just transistors.
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also tubes are more dynamic to your playing, while solid states have more stable sound, thats why even the best SS modelers can't emulate perfecly a tube amp, they usually just make the sound a bit warmer.

Very true.
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#38
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The Line6 Vetta and HD147 sound bad. They do. Sorry to burst your bubble.

i disagree, vetta's are rather righteous sounding
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#39
If your ganna buy any SS amp expecting to sound as awesome as any tube amp or better Pitchard SS amps are the best or any AMT pedals for that matter.

Tech 21 offers good toned SS amps aswell better than alot of tube amps, but it aint tube tone.
Its more for Jazzy players.
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