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How many of you have read Shakespeare's masterpiece Othello? I know most of you probably hate Shakespeare, I actually do too, but when I read Othello, it was different. One thing I've been analyzing about this play is how Othello really isn't the tragic hero of the play, despite his name being the title. I feel as though he is too one-dimensional to really be the focal point of the story, even though the plot generally revolves around him. Also, his gullibility to Iago makes it difficult to relate to Othello. Thoughts?
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Reading Measure for Measure at the moment. My other Lit mate reading Othello says it's OK but he's not as keen on it as he is on modern English.
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I ****ING HATE MEASURE FOR MEASURE... it was the worst shakespeare ive EVER read.. i had to do a massive oral presentation on it too. it was horrible
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Wasn't Othello modernized in a movie with that girl from "Save the Last Dance"? How is that movie?
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Doing Othello currently for English Lit in college. Better than the Winters Tale, i tell ya!
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why would we hate shakespeare??

I've never read it though.
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iago was a bitch ass charecter

try reading king lear. its awesome
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t'was pretty good... far better than lots of other books i had to read for english lit. the worst one (as in most boring for me) was prolly Jane Eyre. Sad times...
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You should try studying it for English, you'd come to hate it. And yes, there is one interpretation that Othello is a jealous, self-interested, incompetent, and thoroughly preoccupied with his reputation.
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From what I've heard, Othello is a good play. Even for people who dont like Shakespeare.


I dont like Shakespeare, at all. So I may give it a go.
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Othello is not gullible, he trust Iago, this makes the story even more of a tragedy. And evidently this makes Othello easier to relate to someone who betrayed you when you had trust i them.


It depends entirely on the way you interpret the text, there are plenty of different ways to see Othello's character. That's the thing about Shakespeare, for the most part he avoids giving stage directions, so a director can take a play by him and mould it to completely alter the audience's sympathies.
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I haven't read Othello, but I also hated Shakespeare until I read a specific play. For me, that was Macbeth.
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^Shut up. Just...argh! But I did chuckle when I read that.

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Othello is not gullible, he trust Iago, this makes the story even more of a tragedy. And evidently this makes Othello easier to relate to someone who betrayed you when you had trust i them.
I don't recall how Iago earned Othello's trust if it was ever stated how. So...how (if stated)?
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^Shut up. Just...argh! But I did chuckle when I read that.

I don't recall how Iago earned Othello's trust if it was ever stated how. So...how (if stated)?


Othello is naive and obsessed with reputation, Iago has a reputation as being honest, and has served under Othello for some time.
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Othello is naive and obsessed with reputation,
This is assumed, though, right?
Iago has a reputation as being honest,
I forgot this
and has served under Othello for some time.
I remember now
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The character I disliked most was Roderigo - a jealous pussy who was completely oblivious to Iago's manipulation. And Iago laid it on pretty thick when fooling Roderigo's stupid ass.
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I like how an author can be terribly vague, but **** out a mass of books then be hailed as the greatest playwriter of all times because his vague ideas can be interpreted many ways.

FYI, authors GENERALLY tend to have one view of the story in their heads. not 1500. Vague =/= genius.
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Othello is a really good play.

This.. I love Shakespeare, in fact my senior year high school I took shakespearean english and it was ****ing awesome. We red othello, twelfth night and henry the V pt 2.
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I like how an author can be terribly vague, but **** out a mass of books then be hailed as the greatest playwriter of all times because his vague ideas can be interpreted many ways.

FYI, authors GENERALLY tend to have one view of the story in their heads. not 1500. Vague =/= genius.

You're right, in all great works of literature there should be no thought involved on the part of the reader. The author should come out and literally say everything he wishes to convey to the audience without leaving a single detail unspoken for. A great piece of literature should be able to be interpreted in many ways by the audience.
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After reading the play I thought that Othello was shallow, immature, vainglorious, violent and terribly gullible. Also very dishonest.

Iago, whilst clearly not pleasant, is a character without a moral centre who never aspires to such and I'm not surprised when he orchestrates violence. Othello is the general, the leader... and he smothers his wife in their wedding bed.
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Othello was def. my favourite shakespearean play.
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I like how an author can be terribly vague, but **** out a mass of books then be hailed as the greatest playwriter of all times because his vague ideas can be interpreted many ways.

FYI, authors GENERALLY tend to have one view of the story in their heads. not 1500. Vague =/= genius.

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Shakespeare was a playwrighting 'genius' because a lot of his ideas had so much foresight, even if he never intended them to have such. Take Othello for example - the way Othello treats his wife (before Iago convinces him that she loves Cassio) is such a modern concept. He treats her with not just courtesy, but with respect and almost a sense of equality - this was never true in the Western world until well into the 19th and 20th centuries.

Vagueness is a mere by-product of how large the scopes of his plays are. They touch upon so many ideas and concepts that it's almost impossible to centralize the angles of his plays into one narrow view.
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#30
I don't see how you could call Othello one dimensional
Depending on how you wish to portray him you can have Othello the gullible fool, Othello the noble warrior, Othello who loves too much, Othello who loves too little, etc
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the way Othello treats his wife (before Iago convinces him that she loves Cassio) is such a modern concept. He treats her with not just courtesy, but with respect and almost a sense of equality - this was never true in the Western world until well into the 19th and 20th centuries.

Got another example for ya.
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But no such roses see I in her cheeks;
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I read one Shakespeare play for class when I was 14 years old. It was Romeo and Juliet, and i absolutely hated it. This year though, my senior year, we are going through Macbeth, and I thought it was just going to be a couple weeks of English class I would just hate. I actually am really enjoying Macbeth, and whenever my class finishes it I will read Othello, and maybe some of his other plays.
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Some of the lines were unintentionally hilarious. There was this one

"a black ram tupping his white ewe" that made the whole class crack up.

Also, I like how everyone dies except Iago.
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How many of you have read Shakespeare's masterpiece Othello? I know most of you probably hate Shakespeare, I actually do too, but when I read Othello, it was different. One thing I've been analyzing about this play is how Othello really isn't the tragic hero of the play, despite his name being the title. I feel as though he is too one-dimensional to really be the focal point of the story, even though the plot generally revolves around him. Also, his gullibility to Iago makes it difficult to relate to Othello. Thoughts?



I thought the most interesting characters were Iago and his wife.
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Othello is my favorite Shakespeare play, I think.
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