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I'm trying to a write short industrial style instrumental peice using guitars, bass, fruity loops and a drum machine (probably hydrogen). My question is this, how should I go about writing synth parts? Should I have them harmonize to the guitars, follow them, or do something of their own?
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my question is what are you using for your "industrial" sounds. i've had hit and miss finds for that stuff.
#4
Go with whatever feels right, I could help out if I knew more about what you're doing.

I'd go with some low bassy arpeggiated synth backing, with some lead fills wherever necessary, definitely use a Moog-style lead sound. It doesn't have to harmonize with the guitar, but if it works use it.
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my question is what are you using for your "industrial" sounds. i've had hit and miss finds for that stuff.


Just using the synths in Fruity Loops, the sytrus synth to be exact
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^ oh ok, yeah i'm not a massive fan of the pre-built stuff. i don't find it to be terribly industrial in nature without a lot of teaking (im trying to find actual samples of air presses/drills etc)

my suggestions for writing the synth parts are to just have fun with it. what i've done in the past is actually take and find the key the song is in and then assign different notes to different instrument. say the song is in E minor, i'd assign the kick drum to the E, then the snare to the G, high hats to B, maybe an open high hat to A and cymbals to F#,C and D. that way the drum beat itself produces its own percussive melody. once you play over it, you get a lot of cool overtones and other musical/audio anomalies that can sound really killer in the end.
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Quote by ChemicalFire
I'm trying to a write short industrial style instrumental peice using guitars, bass, fruity loops and a drum machine (probably hydrogen). My question is this, how should I go about writing synth parts? Should I have them harmonize to the guitars, follow them, or do something of their own?



It's not a matter of what you should do.... it's a matter of what you want to do. If you don't know what you want to do with the synth, you should either not use the synth, or you should experiment/ do some research to help decide what you want.

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Quote by z4twenny
im trying to find actual samples of air presses/drills etc

Have you found these yet?
http://www.therecordist.com/pages/downloads.html
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.....Or do you mean industrial as in the genre?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8Gqes4O1JQ&feature=related

^^ Like that?

Lots of 'Synth Saw' (Not used FL in years!, i think that's what it's called). There was also another great synth on Sytrus, it give a very VNV Nation style, it's called "Bass - Plunk". I made it into a little song just using e minor. Even though it's under "Bass", used with higher notes it sounds great, very eerie.

Synth String - Gold Saw is also another great Funker Vogt/Apoptygma Berzerk style synth.

Use Sub Bass a lot as a kick drum. It's a good 24hz thump.

In terms of music, Industrial is very simple (in terms of musical direction), happy song = major, simple bassy drum beat, cheesy lyrics (Apop - Suffer in Silence lol). Sad songs = minor with loads of long, sustained stringed instruments, loads of delay and echo.

My examples would be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7RlKe5LLPo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uThsM9Q5a7M&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZokZA-8Wvg

...if you're not talking about the genre, then
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.....Or do you mean industrial as in the genre?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8Gqes4O1JQ&feature=related

^^ Like that?



More like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWUmw2ITaFA
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The intro is a synthesized-string section doubled by an Organ, with a "dark" reverb over it.

Most of the time, the sounds used are not that "special", but it's the type of reverb used which sets the mood.

The rest are electric violins (or maybe digital/synthesized also).

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Wow, that sounds alot like Rammstein.

I know it Rammstein it's mostly low, baritone singing. Alot of powerchord pumping out whatever rhthym. Bass following the guitar. The usual rock drumming.

I'd assume the synths are just playing the implied harmonies of the powerchords and the vocal melody. You'd probably want a lighter sounding synth, probably some synth strings or a pad or something. I guess you'd want these strings to be a bit darker, so find a darkish pad or some dark sounding strings.

You can also add fills, like little riffs in between the vocal phrasings. You might also want to write a complete countermelody to the vocal melody you wrote, this is sort of hard though (requires counterpoint), but very interesting. I'd suggest you use a heavier synth, maybe a supersaw with distortion or something ballsy.
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