#1
Just recently I read that a well known UFC fighter could be jailed for spray painting the anarchy symbol on a building in Washington. He did this, fully knowing the consequences, and wanted it to be published in ESPN magazine.

Now, this guy is obviously very passionate about his beliefs, and I know that many people like the idea of Anarchy, but I don't understand it. I think one reason is that people are fed up with the current forms of government. Don't get me wrong, I think the government could use an overhaul, I don't like paying taxes, I don't like being at war, I don't like people with power abusing their power, etc. but I don't think anarchy is the answer.

Isn't anarchy the absence of government/police/order? Wouldn't people just go around stealing and killing without punishment? Who would protect the weak? Eventually, people would ban together to become more powerful and wreak more havoc on other people. Isn't this what is going on in some third world countries? Sudan, Somalia? There is no protective government there, and look what is happening to the people of those countries. It's a humanitarian crisis.

Will someone please prove me wrong and tell me that anarchy makes sense?
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#6
It's an ideal.
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#7
Anarchy has lots of different forms, but generally speaking, it is often seen as a perfect system for a perfect world, which we don't live in. Many anarcho-socialists see anarchy as the final goal of continual reform and revolution, leading first to dictatorship of the proletariat, and through continued reform and revolution, the eventual dismantling of the entire apparatus of the state.

Much of anarchist philosophy is based on the idea of a 'noble savage' someone who has nothing, but also wants for nothing. He has enough land for his own needs, and so has no reason to try to take anyone else's. But realistically in order to reach this stage, it would require the extermination of huge swathes of the human race, or human populations would be too dense and would require some kind of heirachy to impose order.
#8
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#9
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14-year-olds wear the symbol to look cool and rebellious.

That's all I know about it.


This.

Could never be more true.
#11
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Anarchy has lots of different forms, but generally speaking, it is often seen as a perfect system for a perfect world, which we don't live in. Many anarcho-socialists see anarchy as the final goal of continual reform and revolution, leading first to dictatorship of the proletariat, and through continued reform and revolution, the eventual dismantling of the entire apparatus of the state.

Much of anarchist philosophy is based on the idea of a 'noble savage' someone who has nothing, but also wants for nothing. He has enough land for his own needs, and so has no reason to try to take anyone else's. But realistically in order to reach this stage, it would require the extermination of huge swathes of the human race, or human populations would be too dense and would require some kind of heirachy to impose order.


I see, so to have this perfect world, then many people must die, and nobody will be greedy anymore. But 'to greed' is human.

Communism would be great too, ideally. Everybody sharing everything, people getting along, but again, greed steps in. It doesn't work. Also, people are generally too lazy for communism to work like it's designed. It doesn't give people any incentive to work hard, therefore, people don't work hard, nothing gets made, no incentive to study to be a doctor if you just get paid the same as a janitor, etc.

Thanks for the input, I was wondering if I was going to get an intelligent response at all. That's what I get for posting a serious question in the pit.
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know im in the wrong forum
im not stupid........... duh
if you havent notised there is alot of ignorant people here,,,,,,,
#12
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I see, so to have this perfect world, then many people must die, and nobody will be greedy anymore. But 'to greed' is human.

Communism would be great too, ideally. Everybody sharing everything, people getting along, but again, greed steps in. It doesn't work. Also, people are generally too lazy for communism to work like it's designed. It doesn't give people any incentive to work hard, therefore, people don't work hard, nothing gets made, no incentive to study to be a doctor if you just get paid the same as a janitor, etc.

Thanks for the input, I was wondering if I was going to get an intelligent response at all. That's what I get for posting a serious question in the pit.


Yes. It is just a dream of some people. I know it will never succeed, and when most people are asked what communism is...They just say "I know it's bad."

Ignorance.
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#13
its the opposite of a monarchy.
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#14
Yea, communism is also an ideal.
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