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#1
I saw the first part today and I thought it was extremely good, but slightly too long.

Any one else seen it?

EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_(film)

Also, it's only in limited release right now, so you might not have seen it.
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#3
Che Guevera or summat?
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#4
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#5
Yeah, it's about Che Guevara. I thought it had an absolutely immense scope and was really well-written. The second part is coming out next month.

NOTE: The whole film is in Spanish and has English subtitles, so you've been warned.
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I was having sex with a female dolphin. In the dream I was like:
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"... wtf"
#7
I saw a poster for it, and predicted it would likely be a load of balls, but if it really is good I might go and see it. I did like "The Motorcycle Diaries", though.
#8
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is it about who I think it's about


Oh gosh no! It's about Che Smith, the computer programmer.
I'm a MAN!
#9
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I saw a poster for it, and predicted it would likely be a load of balls, but if it really is good I might go and see it. I did like "The Motorcycle Diaries", though.


me too!
#10
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I saw a poster for it, and predicted it would likely be a load of balls, but if it really is good I might go and see it. I did like "The Motorcycle Diaries", though.


Trust me, while it does meander at points, it's better than The Wrestler and the narrative is ****ing brilliant.
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I was having sex with a female dolphin. In the dream I was like:
"YEEEEEEEAAAARGH I'M SCREWIN' A FEMALE DOLPHIN!!!" and when I woke up I was like:
"... wtf"
#11
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Yeah, it's about Che Guevara. I thought it had an absolutely immense scope and was really well-written. The second part is coming out next month.

NOTE: The whole film is in Spanish and has English subtitles, so you've been warned.



that's ok with me


City Of God is probaly my favorite film of all time
#12
Not got around to it yet, but I want to. I've heard mixed reviews, but the subject interests me so I'll give it a look, and it's got to be better than all of the mainstream trash my local cinema is showing (with the exception of Slumdog Millionaire).
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Not got around to it yet, but I want to. I've heard mixed reviews, but the subject interests me so I'll give it a look, and it's got to be better than all of the mainstream trash my local cinema is showing (with the exception of Slumdog Millionaire).


It depends. You'll either love it or hate it. It's a lot more story-driven than I thought but it was awesome.
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I was having sex with a female dolphin. In the dream I was like:
"YEEEEEEEAAAARGH I'M SCREWIN' A FEMALE DOLPHIN!!!" and when I woke up I was like:
"... wtf"
#16
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I saw the first part today and I thought it was extremely good, but slightly too long.

Any one else seen it?

EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_(film)

Also, it's only in limited release right now, so you might not have seen it.



i did see it, i was dissappionted at the lack of insight into his thoughts, as the film was supposed to be based off his diary i thought there would have been

but the film was very factual and i think very educational for those who do not know the history of the revolution and the achievement it was for them to win

particularly including Camilo Cienfuegos alot, who is very famous in Cuba and revered as much of a hero as el Che (almost)
#17
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i did see it, i was dissappionted at the lack of insight into his thoughts, as the film was supposed to be based off his diary i thought there would have been

but the film was very factual and i think very educational for those who do not know the history of the revolution and the achievement it was for them to win

particularly including Camilo Cienfuegos alot, who is very famous in Cuba and revered as much of a hero as el Che (almost)


Yeah, it focuses more on what he did than Che himself, but it did have a surprising amount of attention to detail and Del Toro had a superb performance.
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I was having sex with a female dolphin. In the dream I was like:
"YEEEEEEEAAAARGH I'M SCREWIN' A FEMALE DOLPHIN!!!" and when I woke up I was like:
"... wtf"
#18
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Yeah, it focuses more on what he did than Che himself, but it did have a surprising amount of attention to detail and Del Toro had a superb performance.



i was just annoyed that the character was given little depth, or charm, i mean we all know he shagged Aleida so where was the romance between them? it was very thin in that respect

as well as not really showing the internal debate on how best to run the country, all though was touched upon was assuming the audience knew what Fidel's ideas for land reform were

but im glad it examined the difficulty faced by the revolutionaries and giving insight into how harsh discipline is sometimes needed to win
#19
A movie about a communist dictator, that was inderectly the cause for my parents to flee Cuba? Sorry, it's not getting my money.
#20
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i was just annoyed that the character was given little depth, or charm, i mean we all know he shagged Aleida so where was the romance between them? it was very thin in that respect

as well as not really showing the internal debate on how best to run the country, all though was touched upon was assuming the audience knew what Fidel's ideas for land reform were

but im glad it examined the difficulty faced by the revolutionaries and giving insight into how harsh discipline is sometimes needed to win


Yeah, they just sort of said *SLIGHT SPOILER* "Yeah, we overthrew Batista" like it meant nothing at the end of the movie.*SLIGHT SPOILER*

It was meant as a war movie though, and in that respect I thought it was great.
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I was having sex with a female dolphin. In the dream I was like:
"YEEEEEEEAAAARGH I'M SCREWIN' A FEMALE DOLPHIN!!!" and when I woke up I was like:
"... wtf"
#21
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A movie about a communist dictator, that was inderectly the cause for my parents to flee Cuba? Sorry, it's not getting my money.


...what?


We are talking about Che here, right?

RMF


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And not waving but drowning.
I was much too far out all my life
And not waving but drowning.
#22
A movie about a communist dictator, that was inderectly the cause for my parents to flee Cuba? Sorry, it's not getting my money.



pfft he was never in power, thank you for your informed comment
bloody exiles always have to say something

..what? We are talking about Che here, right?


yea we are. apparently these so called Cubans in exile know so little of the country they can not even tell you who was or is leader

Yeah, they just sort of said *SLIGHT SPOILER* "Yeah, we overthrew Batista" like it meant nothing at the end of the movie.*SLIGHT SPOILER* It was meant as a war movie though, and in that respect I thought it was great.


well as a war film it was fantastic, however it was supposed to be a biopic

i was also annoyed we did not see the march to Havana or even Fidel's triumphant entry into Havana
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#23
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pfft he was never in power, thank you for your informed comment
bloody exiles always have to say something



yea we are. apparently these so called Cubans in exile know so little of the country they can not even tell you who was or is leader



well as a war film it was fantastic, however it was supposed to be a biopic

i was also annoyed we did not see the march to Havana or even Fidel's triumphant entry into Havana


They could have taken out a little of the monotony in the main story and put that in at the end, because I thought that was one of the weakest parts of the film. Hopefully the second part is as good. That's based on his attempted revolution in Bolivia.
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I was having sex with a female dolphin. In the dream I was like:
"YEEEEEEEAAAARGH I'M SCREWIN' A FEMALE DOLPHIN!!!" and when I woke up I was like:
"... wtf"
#24
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pfft he was never in power, thank you for your informed comment
bloody exiles always have to say something



yea we are. apparently these so called Cubans in exile know so little of the country they can not even tell you who was or is leader



well as a war film it was fantastic, however it was supposed to be a biopic

i was also annoyed we did not see the march to Havana or even Fidel's triumphant entry into Havana


lol exactly..

RMF


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And not waving but drowning.
I was much too far out all my life
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#25
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They could have taken out a little of the monotony in the main story and out that at the end, because I thought that was one of the weakest parts of the film. Hopefully the second part is as good. That's based on his attempted revolution in Bolivia.



and is tragic, yet apparently defiant death
i remember watching the channel 4 documentary "638 ways to kill Fidel Castro" and they spoke with the CIA agent who captured him and was told to have him executed- or to pass the order on and have soldiers do it
he made Che sound very brave, which was remarkable for such an anti-communist and Cuban exile.
#27
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pfft he was never in power, thank you for your informed comment
bloody exiles always have to say something



yea we are. apparently these so called Cubans in exile know so little of the country they can not even tell you who was or is leader



well as a war film it was fantastic, however it was supposed to be a biopic

i was also annoyed we did not see the march to Havana or even Fidel's triumphant entry into Havana


Read the post, it says INDIRECTLY, of course I know he wasn't the leader, what kind of of a dumbass do you think I am! Then again, look at who this is coming from- 'UG's socialist'.
#28

Read the post, it says INDIRECTLY, of course I know he wasn't the leader, what kind of of a dumbass do you think I am! Then again, look at who this is coming from- 'UG's socialist'.


you said dictator, it is very hard to dictate things from a position of which one has no authority

but since your parents left i can assume your family is one of those loathsome middle class families unhappy that Batista was no longer there to give them tax breaks and be as racist as they like
although even my grandfather left it would not stop me from understanding the achievements of the revolution or the sacrifice of el Che
so whatever, f*ck off to Miami and suck off Orlando Bosch while your there
#29
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and is tragic, yet apparently defiant death
i remember watching the channel 4 documentary "638 ways to kill Fidel Castro" and they spoke with the CIA agent who captured him and was told to have him executed- or to pass the order on and have soldiers do it
he made Che sound very brave, which was remarkable for such an anti-communist and Cuban exile.


I think overall the standard of acting was great and the script was well-written, but I think it was just the fact that the director focused too much on the little things which, while making the film extremely authentic, it just makes everything feel like less of an accomplishment.

Simply put, I think it's possibly the best film somebody could have made of Che.
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I didn't find it that funny when I saw myself doing him in missionary position...

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I was having sex with a female dolphin. In the dream I was like:
"YEEEEEEEAAAARGH I'M SCREWIN' A FEMALE DOLPHIN!!!" and when I woke up I was like:
"... wtf"
#30
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you said dictator, it is very hard to dictate things from a position of which one has no authority

but since your parents left i can assume your family is one of those loathsome middle class families unhappy that Batista was no longer there to give them tax breaks and be as racist as they like
although even my grandfather left it would not stop me from understanding the achievements of the revolution or the sacrifice of el Che
so whatever, f*ck off to Miami and suck off Orlando Bosch while your there


Tell me then, what did the revolution achieve? Took a government that was horrible as it was and made it worse? you guys dont make any sense.
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Tell me then, what did the revolution achieve? Took a government that was horrible as it was and made it worse? you guys dont make any sense.


I'm not defending Che at all. I'm just discussing the movie.

Also, I can see this turning into a flame war so just cool it down a little, guys.
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I was having sex with a female dolphin. In the dream I was like:
"YEEEEEEEAAAARGH I'M SCREWIN' A FEMALE DOLPHIN!!!" and when I woke up I was like:
"... wtf"
#33
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I'm not defending Che at all. I'm just discussing the movie.

Also, I can see this turning into a flame war so just cool it down a little, guys.


nah man, you're cool with me, I'm not attacking you.
#34
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The irony of his life being made into a money making machine in a capitalist country is immense


It's not really a money-making machine if it's only getting limited release worldwide.

It is a very good movie though. It's not like the film has no soul. The directer and Del Toro put years worth of research into their roles and interviewed people who fought alongside him.
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I was having sex with a female dolphin. In the dream I was like:
"YEEEEEEEAAAARGH I'M SCREWIN' A FEMALE DOLPHIN!!!" and when I woke up I was like:
"... wtf"
#35
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Tell me then, what did the revolution achieve? Took a government that was horrible as it was and made it worse? you guys dont make any sense.



put the land used by large US corporations such as United fruits (which due to Batista they paid no tax on) and put them in the hands of Cuban workers

highest life expectancy in the Caribbean,
lower infant mortality than the US,
best education system in the Caribbean (i think it may be Latin America but im not sure)
stood up to US hegemony
thanks to Cuban intervention the Angolan people were able to fight off the South African/US invasion, would you support the racist apartheid regime in that war?
Cuban help for the Ethiopians
Cuba now trains 10,000 doctors a year from foreign countries for free!
Cuba even ave medical aid to the poor people of New Orleans after hurricane Katrina
it also helped prove that US hegemony could be beaten, and is an inspiration to the people of South America, who are now carrying on Che's ideas in trying to create a united South America in line with socialist ideology

i rather dislike the idea of Cuban exiles telling me what is wrong with it, since they have never been and know so very little about it anyway, the only media sources ever cited for the bad things tend to be just a tad bias, the only one i ever take note of is Amnesty international's list of political detainees in Cuba
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#36
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lol @ glorifying a mass murderer.


lol @ knowing not very much.


You think America have never killed an innocent bystander? Honestly, do you believe that?

Do you believe invading a country because of potential weapons of mass destruction is completely justified? P.S:There never were any.

How many peoples lives has that invasion taken?

Double standards suck.

edit: imthehitcher, I tilt my hat to thee.

RMF


I was much further out than you thought
And not waving but drowning.
I was much too far out all my life
And not waving but drowning.
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#37
The version I watched had no subtitles so I probably missed a bit of the more rapidly spoken dialogue.

Lookin' forward to seeing the second part.
#38
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The version I watched had no subtitles so I probably missed a bit of the more rapidly spoken dialogue.

Lookin' forward to seeing the second part.


What did you think of it?
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I was having sex with a female dolphin. In the dream I was like:
"YEEEEEEEAAAARGH I'M SCREWIN' A FEMALE DOLPHIN!!!" and when I woke up I was like:
"... wtf"
#39
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lol @ knowing not very much.


You think America have never killed an innocent bystander? Honestly, do you believe that?

Do you believe invading a country because of potential weapons of mass destruction is completely justified? P.S:There never were any.

How many peoples lives has that invasion taken?

Double standards suck.

edit: imthehitcher, I tilt my hat to thee.



aye
it is also a grey area trying to accuse someone of mass murder for executions carried out during a war against 'traitors', i do not know how many happened and i never personally would agree with capital punishment
but it occurs to me that many more prisoners have died at the hands of western imperial powers than those by the orders of Che, i do not pretend he was perfect but i still choose to respect what he did for good reasons, even going as far to give his life when he could so easily have stayed in argentina and been a wealthy doctor, or stayed in Cuba and become a powerful politician
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Quote by imthehitcher
put the land used by large US corporations such as United fruits (which due to Batista they paid no tax on) and put them in the hands of Cuban workers

highest life expectancy in the Caribbean,
lower infant mortality than the US,
best education system in the Caribbean (i think it may be Latin America but im not sure)
stood up to US hegemony
thanks to Cuban intervention the Angolan people were able to fight off the South African/US invasion, would you support the racist apartheid regime in that war?
Cuban help for the Ethiopians
Cuba now trains 10,000 doctors a year from foreign countries for free!
Cuba even ave medical aid to the poor people of New Orleans after hurricane Katrina
it also helped prove that US hegemony could be beaten, and is an inspiration to the people of South America, who are now carrying on Che's ideas in trying to create a united South America in line with socialist ideology

i rather dislike the idea of Cuban exiles telling me what is wrong with it, since they have never been and know so very little about it anyway, the only media sources ever cited for the bad things tend to be just a tad bias, the only one i ever take note of is Amnesty international's list of political detainees in Cuba


yeah, they help everyone else but their own people. Good lifestyle is given to those that can afford it, and obviously, if you go to the places in Cuba that the government does not show you, its practicaly everyone.

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aye
it is also a grey area trying to accuse someone of mass murder for executions carried out during a war against 'traitors', i do not know how many happened and i never personally would agree with capital punishmentbut it occurs to me that many more prisoners have died at the hands of western imperial powers than those by the orders of Che, i do not pretend he was perfect but i still choose to respect what he did for good reasons, even going as far to give his life when he could so easily have stayed in argentina and been a wealthy doctor, or stayed in Cuba and become a powerful politician


You dont agree with capital punishment? then you should have see the firing squads they used to have.
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