#1
Hey guys, I've been playing guitar for almost two years now, but until recently it was really casual and I didn't really get into it completely. This thread is kind of long but I'd appreciate it if some of you read it.

I've been using a fender squier all this time with a really ****ty amp (some domestic korean brand) that feedbacks like hell when I plug in my distortion because I didn't want to shell out a load of money on fancy gear without "deserving it." But I've been practicing regularly and right now I'm actually fairly good. Good enough to stop using a squier anyway :0.

I've been considering buying some new gear and I need some sound advice. I hate wasting money on flashy, unnecessary crap so I'm aiming to optimize as much as possible.

I don't have a whole lot of money to spare so I'm thinking of switching guitars first, and then an amp, and then effects. I'm especially desperate to get rid of the f-ing feedback.

So, putting all of the above into consideration:

1) Any suggestions for a good guitar with good sound? Specific models? A les paul would be the most fitting to my musical tastes, but I probably won't be able to afford a gibson les paul. Epiphone? Other models with similar sound? Something more affordable than a gibson?

2)Good amps?

3)I suck at looking info up on the net so please share some basic/necessary knowledge about effects(what to buy, how to adjust/use it properly) guitar parts (pickups, etc)


Thanks guys.

****EDIT: I forgot to mention what style of music I played! Well, I play whatever I listen to and I listen to pretty much everything. But, MOSTLY I play punk, melodic hardcore, emo, stuff like vinnie moore joe satriani and just rock in general.

Thanks to all who replied except that one dude who said something about poop.
My budget is up to 500 bucks, give or take for a guitar and for the amp, whatever it takes to achieve the quality of sound I want.
Last edited by enomushiki at Jan 18, 2009,
#2
yea if you want a les paul epiphone is the way to go, but what kind of tone do you want to emulate, and what style do you play?
#4
You should change your amp first. That will definitely have the biggest impact on your sound. What are some of your influences and what is your budget?

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#5
peavey valveking for an amp maybe i would get the amp first
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#6
Quote by xwearesinking
You should change your amp first. That will definitely have the biggest impact on your sound. What are some of your influences and what is your budget?

Correct.

As a general rule -

A sh*tty guitar through a good amp sounds decent. A great guitar through a sh*tty amp just sounts like sh*t.
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Last edited by strat0blaster at Jan 18, 2009,
#8
fender blues jr amp. Takes pedals very well.

any kind of strat. If you dont like fender any gibson will do.
#9
First, what style of music do you want to play? While you could play any style of music on any kind of guitar, any given guitar is more suited for certain styles than for others.

Second, what is your approximate budget? Decent LP style guitars start as low as $200 for surprisingly decent guitars, and the sky is the limit.

Examples of non Gibson LP guitars:

Xaviere XV500 ($200+) and XV700 ($200+)
http://store.guitarfetish.com/nexvsomaflma.html
http://store.guitarfetish.com/nexvthcubafl.html

Dean EVO ($100-600) and Soltero ($600+)
http://www.instrumentpro.com/search.php?q=dean%20evo&p=1&store=1&Search_Type=AND&sort=1
http://www.instrumentpro.com/search.php?q=dean+soltero&store=1&Search_Type=AND

Indie Black Jack ($600+)
http://www.indieguitars.ca/products/designerflag.htm

Malden Karma ($989)and Bad Karma ($999)
http://www.maldenguitars.com/karma.htm
http://www.maldenguitars.com/badkarma.htm

JET Caldera ($2500)
http://www.jetguitars.com/caldera.html
http://www.maldenguitars.com/badkarma.htm
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Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Jan 18, 2009,
#11
I would get a Peavey VYPYR or Roland Cube for an amp, and one of these: http://www.rondomusic.com/dauntlesssbdhc.html

That would be a good, versital starter set up that will allow you to find the type of sound YOU like.
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#12
Okay I was like in your exact same spot. I replaced my amp with a Fender Blues Jr. The Squier sounds good enough through it giving you some time to upgrade your guitar. Not to mention it takes both fenders and gibsons amazingly and the all tube sound can give you a natural OD that makes it one less pedal to buy.
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"Epicaster" pimped out strat
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#14
I agree with the guys above on the fender bj. I had a ss amp and a few days ago, I picked up a blues jr and i dont think you guitar would sound any worse than my mim strat. I love my new amp. It also sounds great with my gibson flying v.
#15
Another LP maker that seems to be popular around here:

Agile ($150-400)

http://www.rondomusic.com/al3100sptbl.html

And for sheer whackyness...a fretless one
http://www.rondomusic.com/AL3000flsilver.html
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#16
an agile + vypyr or cube 30x will do you good.
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#17
Check out the Vox AD, VT or XL series.

The AD is classic rock I think and quite old but seems alright.

I've just purchased an XL which is used for high gain, metal sounds.

However you should check out the new VT series, which I understand is like the AD and XL series put together but with more effects and 22 amp models. Should be great if youre moving up in the world/

The great things about these is that they have Valves in them

Dont go for the Vypyr, I've heard really really terrible things about them, like massive glitches and stuff.

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Check out the Vox AD, VT or XL series.

The AD is classic rock I think and quite old but seems alright.

I've just purchased an XL which is used for high gain, metal sounds.

However you should check out the new VT series, which I understand is like the AD and XL series put together but with more effects and 22 amp models. Should be great if youre moving up in the world/

The great things about these is that they have Valves in them

Dont go for the Vypyr, I've heard really really terrible things about them, like massive glitches and stuff.


+1, but i never heard of a vypyr breaking down ohhh well.
BTW the vox are not tube they are HYBRIDS they dont have a power tube.
the line 6 spider valve (not very crappy) and the Peavey Vypyr TUBE are real tube modeling amps.
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#19
You get the warmth of the valves though, but with solid state output. I really like the tone on the one I tired out, and the production (eg. the knobs and stuff) were of much higher quality than the Vypyr.

I've played a Line 6 Spider Valve and it sounds okay .

If youre looking for evidence about problems with the Vypyr just check this out , pages upon pages of problems

I really liked the Vypyr before I read that as well.

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#20
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If youre looking for evidence about problems with the Vypyr just check this out , pages upon pages of problems

I really liked the Vypyr before I read that as well.


My cousin who has a vypyr for 2 months never had any problems with is vypyr.
well i think some vypyrs will not have problems and some are just lemons.
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