#1
Hai all,

So ive just put a rough mock up of the guitar im going to build, possibly starting in febaury and hope to have it finished by september (I bet that i could finish it by then )

Ok so the details;

Custom V shaped guitar (pretty much a King V with some tweaks)

-7 piece maple/ wenge body.. or basically a light/ dark wood mix
(perhaps a cheaper lighter wood with a very dark die applied)
-Deep carved sides

-25.5inch scale length

-24 fret scalloped XJ fretted neck (ebony or stained rosewood)

-Gold locking tuners (wilkinson brand)

-Gold roller bridge TOM with string through body

- 2x volume/ 1x tone/ 1x 3-way toggle switch

- 2x Zebra high out put pickup's or EMG (depending on price)

misc- belly carve, medium/ thick neck, tilted headstock, roller nut.

The specs have changed since i made the image, but you get a rough idea of what i want it to look like.



I'm not planning on spending alot on this build, i'll try to keep it under £600 (all guitar parts, wood + tools)

Could anyone suggest a decent place to buy wood from, im not sure what would be best suited to this, i want a wood with no so much grain (like in the image) but a wood that can be stained a very darkish/ black colour and a wood that can be stained the orangey type colour and that is strong enough for a neck thru, yet wont break the bank
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#2
That looks really sweet man. Best of luck!

assuming you're in the UK, I hear Craft Supplies is good for luthier woods

EDIT: for wood, you could go with either sapele or mahogany for the lighter parts and blackheart for the darker parts
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Last edited by bv310 at Jan 19, 2009,
#4
can't wait till you get this one rolling! You can finish it before September for sure.

Whats this bet you've made?
#5
7 piece body+oil finish=epic win.
And don't let anyone talk you out of scalloping the neck.
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#6
Not to nit-pick, since this is just a design and all, but those knobs are too close together... And the really narrow bit under the neck pickup is not wide enough for the pickup to be placed there and it looks a bit out of place...

But other then those two little things, I really think it looks bitchin...
#7
I didn't even see that you planned to scallop the neck, kewl! I've always wanted a scalloped neck.

EDIT: I think the plan was done on a kisekae or something. Hopefully that's not the template you're using. Gotta drop that pickup down
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#9
yeah, right about the neck pickup...
i think the close knobs are really cool though.. its like.. this is how far apart my notes are gonna be when i play
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#10
The only issue i see with the knobs being so close together is the pots. Unless you use mini pots you probably wont be able to get the knobs that close together. Other than that it looks sweet and good luck with this. O and what is it that u bet? money? sex? your soul?
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yeah i mean thats great and all, but your pickup rings arent going to fit on that carved part on the neck pickup


looks sexy, just do it and post pics like... within the next 12 minutes.

If he can find a bridge pickup ring that's tall like for a less paul or something, he should be able to sand it to fit..
#14
You need a locking nut with a Floyd, I think, not a roller nut.
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#15
^He's covered that in his description. It's not gonna have a Floyd, he just made the mockup before settling on the specs (the list mentions a TOM-style roller bridge)
#17
Hey thank's for all the feedback and comments glad you's like it!

I agree about the neck pickup it look's out of place, so i'm only going to do a bridge pick up, which means only 1 volume knob (i could do a tone knob i guess, but i like the look of just one knob).

Thanks for the tip about the wood, i think i'll use mahogany and the black heart, depending how cheap i can get it, i'd settle for even alder with wood stain if i cant get a hold of the above wood though.

Thanks for pointing that out about the knobs/ pots i wouldnt have even though about the closeness of them if you's handnt said, that'll save me some time

I used PS for the design, a few pictures of some red mapel/ wenge and then took an image of a king V and make a rough template then just started added bits of hardware and adding shading etc etc. I have a new design below, this should be easier to make with the 1 pickup since i'll only need to wire like 1 pot and then straight to the out put.

The bridge is a shcaller roller bridge with fine tuners, for $95 it isnt bad, i have a roller nut on it, but you cant see it very well on the picture. Also new neck design with no inlays, i dont think i'll be able to do decent inlays so it'll just be side markers, i've tried to show the scalope on the fretboard, but it's quite hard to see.

Anyway, thanks for the tips so far


I have a question about tools, since i'll be buying them all brand new.

So far i've worked out that i'll need;

Power tools

- Jig saw
- drill (with drill press thing, so i can get perfectly straight drill holes)
- router
- power sander

Hand tools

- spoke shave
- files (for scaloping)
- fret saw (?)

Misc

- soldering iron
- sanding blocks/ pads
- hammer for knocking in frets?? (or i might just buy a fretboard with frets already done?)
- clamps/ vices


There is some more but i cant think right now, i dont have access to a big workshop or any fancy tools so i'll be doing everything on a bench with a power tool or with a hand tool, it'll take longer but that's all i can do really.

Thanks



Direct mounted pick ups btw


EDIT:: the bet is for £50 with sam b, he wanted to bet £300..
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Last edited by Daniel8488 at Jan 20, 2009,
#19
ANGLED FRETBOARDDDDD and go up to 27 frets minimum. i love the look of the extended fretboard on the treble side so much.
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#21
cant wait to see this started

i LOVE the new look btw

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#22
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ANGLED FRETBOARDDDDD and go up to 27 frets minimum. i love the look of the extended fretboard on the treble side so much.

A-fucking-greed! I think that area looks too bare with no neck pickup, and an angled fretboard end would remedy that completely.


Now, Daniel- you say you made it from a King V... Are you sure you don't mean an RR? Or at least a mixture of the two (the bottom fin is shorter, but not quite as short as that of an RR, I think). But no matter what, this design has the potential to be killah!
#23
thanks for the comments

I cant wait to start it either


So i've got my final scale length it'll be 25.5 inches and i've got my fret spacing worked out (or calcuclatored should i say) im just going to use a jackson rhandy rhoads plan from guitarplansunlimited.com, it'll be about £10 or something, then i'll just tweak the plans to fit my design, the pickup/ bridge will stay in the same place as the plane, just the body will have a slight alteration.

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I've also selected some final hardware, i'll spare all the details becuase i already have a few diffrent ones in the thread =/

The pick-up will be GIOVANNI Zebra (matched, other will go in LP) 60's spec vintage PAF 8.5K alnico 5 magnets & 42var copper wind. Also i'm having a tone and volume knob on the guitar, but it's in one knob, so i'll be able to control tone and volume from one knob (seperatley ofcourse), the pot will be coupled with a 0.47 @ 400v capacitor, i'm under the impression that that'll give me a more bassy/ fuller sound?

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I've priced it up so far and WITH OUT THE WOOD!! it comes to about £500 =/

But i have a few months so hopefully i'll get there.

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Pikka bird: your right, it's from a RR not a king V, im not sure where i got that idea from =/ so it's a custom RR really haha. I wont be doing a slanted fretboard, well not at the moment
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Neck-thru 4 string bass.

Acoustic 6 string.
#24
Not much of an update really, waiting on the quote for wood and purchasing real RR plans soon!

But for now i've been making some mock up plans, since im going to make my own heel shape, cavity route and jack output. Also i'll be slightly recessing the volume/ tone knob since it's taller than your standard knob. it's rough, i.e. scale is not perfect, but it gives me a good enough idea of the overal shape's.


(i've had rhino for like 5 minute's, so it's not as good as it could/ should be, but meh)

Note the large cavity section, i'll route this large incase i want to put electronics in it later on, i.e. onboard distortion, over-drive etc which require a battery, i should have enough room in the cavity.

Also i'm going to be using a fender strat style output jack and mount it on the inside of the wing pointing down, so if i accidently stand on the wire the wire will just pull straight out, instead of damaging either part.

Update on wood! i can get mahogany and walnut, it's abit diffrent from wenge, but im sure it'll look just as good.
Black Knight CF-60F Semi-Acoustic.

Black Knight CP200 (Red flamed maple).

Neck-thru 4 string bass.

Acoustic 6 string.
#26
The bet is £50, was going to be £300, but i dont think either of us would part with that kind of money haha.


QUESTION TIME... again =/

Ok so i've been researching all over the place and so far, i've figured i would do a 0 degree angled neck, to acheive this i would slightly shave the top wood off the body section, upto the neck and then i would recess the bridge.

Ok so, so far i have this worked out;

A wrap around tailpiece with a minimium hieght of 15mm recessed into the body by 15mm with a carve infront of it so i can easily put string's through it.

Now if the top of it is level when it's lowered down i can raise the bridge so it is on par with the fretboard, therefore i wont need any level of degree on the neck, I'd also shave the top of the body by 3/4 mm's.

In the diagram below you can see the routed recess for the bridge (note, not final plans).


So, would this work out to plan, or am i missing something here? =/



And i feel like im spamming my own thread =/ but i really would like to have everything nailed down before i go off on a wood chopping ramppage
Black Knight CF-60F Semi-Acoustic.

Black Knight CP200 (Red flamed maple).

Neck-thru 4 string bass.

Acoustic 6 string.
#28
Oh you will get something alright bbz

It's slowly progressing, gathering all the knowledge, tools, plans etc etc.
Black Knight CF-60F Semi-Acoustic.

Black Knight CP200 (Red flamed maple).

Neck-thru 4 string bass.

Acoustic 6 string.