Poll: Is stealing a part of capitolism
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yes
15 28%
no
29 54%
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Voters: 54.
#1
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I'm not sure if I understand the principles of capitalism, but if it's like what I'm thinking, then it's every man for them self essentially. What I mean is if it is a capitalistic ideal to steal for your own benefit.
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I'm not sure what type of answer you're looking for, but theft definitely affects the prices of things in specific stores or areas.

If a specific shop or store experiences a lot of theft, prices are going to rice to offset the money which was lost.

Often times you'll find that everything costs more in certain parts of large cities, I know in the "local ghetto" all of the places charge a bit more than what everything should cost, and that's partly because crime is higher in that part of town.
#6
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Often times you'll find that everything costs more in certain parts of large cities, I know in the "local ghetto" all of the places charge a bit more than what everything should cost, and that's partly because crime is higher in that part of town.

The higher prices could lead people to stealing the stuff though.
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#7
since capitolism doesn't exist nothing is part of it. Capitalism on the other hand well c'est le meme chose
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#8
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The higher prices could lead people to stealing the stuff though.


its a vicious cycle
#9
well i guess if its you yourself stealing the stuff and your the one benefitting for it, but then again i dont fully understand the system
#10
You need to define "stealing."

If you mean shoplifting at a store, I frankly do not see the connection.

But essentially, I believe that capitalism does in effect result in "stealing" of some sort. I haven't been reading up on this stuff yet, but from my point of view capitalism--or at least modern corporate capitalism--is fundamentally a system where the wealthy derive more riches from their currrent wealth, and as this progresses, the poor and powerless are pushed down more and more to the bottom with fewer and fewer opportunities to evade poverty.

At least that's what I think.
#13
I read the title as "I'm stealing a part of the Capitol" and expected someone with a plan to break into the Capitol during the Inauguration tomorrow.
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I read the title as "I'm stealing a part of the Capitol" and expected someone with a plan to break into the Capitol during the Inauguration tomorrow.

Best plot ever. Everyone's focused only a few miles (metres? Not sure how far the White House is from the Lincoln Memorial and shit) away while you go and steal some paintings or graffiti the place up, like this:



Response relative to the topic at hand: No, capitalism is supposed to be a free, fair market, is my understanding, and no one should be tempted or able to take advantage of the system.
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#16
Quote by dudius
I'm not sure what type of answer you're looking for, but theft definitely affects the prices of things in specific stores or areas.

If a specific shop or store experiences a lot of theft, prices are going to rice to offset the money which was lost.

Often times you'll find that everything costs more in certain parts of large cities, I know in the "local ghetto" all of the places charge a bit more than what everything should cost, and that's partly because crime is higher in that part of town.

And that's the circle of life.
#17
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As an actual response to the thread: theft is part of human nature, not any particular economic system.
#18
Quote by dudius


Often times you'll find that everything costs more in certain parts of large cities, I know in the "local ghetto" all of the places charge a bit more than what everything should cost, and that's partly because crime is higher in that part of town.


wow...in the rich area of my city they charge about $4 for a bottle of coke that is about 330ml...so maybe a little less volume than a can...srzly do they think that their coke tastes better than the coke in other shops...

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#19
Quote by dudius
I'm not sure what type of answer you're looking for, but theft definitely affects the prices of things in specific stores or areas.

If a specific shop or store experiences a lot of theft, prices are going to rice to offset the money which was lost.

Often times you'll find that everything costs more in certain parts of large cities, I know in the "local ghetto" all of the places charge a bit more than what everything should cost, and that's partly because crime is higher in that part of town.

Shops in low-income areas will also charge more because they figure they have a captive audience.
#20
capitalism is about the individual; its the economy of evolution, survival of the fittest and all that jazz. Thing is it works, well to an extent. Poor people are gettin pushed over but more opportunities are now there for the poor to get a good education, i suppose that is pretty culturally biased tho!
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Response relative to the topic at hand: No, capitalism is supposed to be a free, fair market, is my understanding, and no one should be tempted or able to take advantage of the system.



That's a very naive world view. Its a "free market" controlled by Rich bastards who simply want to get richer. And since they're acting to further there own means, its far from fair.

Capitalism favours the haves, while further oppressing the have-nots. Why do you think 90% of American capital is in the hands of the top 1% people?

The poor only have options if the rich give it to them, and the rich aren't going to give opportunities that allow the poor to get so rich that they join the existing rich group. The rich will only give as many opportunities as it takes to give the lower class the illusion that they have a chance, to lull them into complacement.

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#22
It's a part of Darwinism, which is what capitalism is based on, yes.

I actually made that up. Sorry.
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capitolism ftw
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#25
Given some of the responses I've read here, the thought of some of you being part of the future society... frightens me.
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That's a very naive world view. Its a "free market" controlled by Rich bastards who simply want to get richer. And since they're acting to further there own means, its far from fair.

Capitalism favours the haves, while further oppressing the have-nots. Why do you think 90% of American capital is in the hands of the top 1% people?

The poor only have options if the rich give it to them, and the rich aren't going to give opportunities that allow the poor to get so rich that they join the existing rich group. The rich will only give as many opportunities as it takes to give the lower class the illusion that they have a chance, to lull them into complacement.

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and that reason isnt capitalism.
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#28
Stealing is not a part of capitalism by definition but it does actually happen in the real world.
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#31
Well, profit is essentially something for nothing. Whether or not you would classify that as stealing really depends on the person.
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#33
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I'm not sure what type of answer you're looking for, but theft definitely affects the prices of things in specific stores or areas.

If a specific shop or store experiences a lot of theft, prices are going to rice to offset the money which was lost.

Often times you'll find that everything costs more in certain parts of large cities, I know in the "local ghetto" all of the places charge a bit more than what everything should cost, and that's partly because crime is higher in that part of town.

if thats true then it seems like noone is stealing from Tesco
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