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I was reading an old interview in guitar player with the main article being about the black crowes cd "warpaint", and when asked on the subject of how the jam with jimmy page went, Rich Robinson said, "That took a while to fathom, but it sound great...i was happy that someone still plays sincere beautiful music because you don't hear it much...rock and roll used to have a sense of real electricity-not these putzes jumping around onstage with really loud amps."

So pit does Rich have a point? I disagree, i think there are many rock and heavy metal bands that still play because they love the sound of the music, not for the fame and fortune. Poll up in a sec.
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#2
It definitely lost its spirit by the end of the 90's.

Only a couple of new rock bands do it for the music nowadays.
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my same thoughts dio_dude. i know all i want to do is play loud and make great music.
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#6
Hey hey, my myyyyyyyyyy.

Rock and roll will never die...
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#7
No, it's just the mainstream that's like that.
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#9
Music still doesn't sound the same anymore, and for this I hate listening to the radio.

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#11
Rock in roll it aint dead
I don't care what Rich said
It's alive and kicking
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#12
I don't think it's lost it's spirit, I think people won't let it evolve. You can only push a concept so far before it needs to change and grow. like that interview said, rock is just overrun with people that are just completely missing the point. rock hasn't lost it's spirit, it's just waiting for someone to come along and let it be re-born.
#13
Some bands still have the spirit, but they do not get famous because they don't sing about suicide or their girlfriends breaking up with them.
#14
but music always evolves. i agree about mainstream music, much of it is garbage. but andy timmons band, opeth, and pretty much anybody who was on ozzfest 07 (they didn't get paid on the tour) play because they enjoy the music.
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in a way.... you have too look harder now too find good bands, but with the boom of the internet it sort of balances out
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Nope, you just gotta find the right bands.

See an Old 97's or Drams show, you'll see what I'm talking about.
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#21
The problem with 'bringing back Rock n roll' is getting hundreds of bands that think the only way to bring it back is to sound and act exactly like their idols. It becomes more of a pop trend than a legitimate passion and the scene gets saturated with these bands.
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#22
I'd say there's always been bands who did it for the money and bands who didn't, but most rock bands seem to do it for a combination of both. I don't think there is a greater percentage of bands that do it for the money these days or anything, though.
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#24
Every once in a while you get a real band like Judas Priest.. and the majority of the time you get a band like KISS, who did it for the money. They are the most commercialized band of ALL time.
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#26
It has never died, its just that people have lost their interest in true rock. Great bands are out there, but unnoticed because of the shadow that bands like The Jonas Brothers cast. But now a days, rock seems to be rising up as the mainstream music again.
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#27
Rock isnt dead, but the industry is trying to convert music into just a money-making business with generic bands like the Jonas Brothers and Fall Out Boy. At least we still have classic rocks artists like AC/DC to show them that theres more to music then that
#28
Rock lost it's "true spirit" in the 60s.

THIS is "true" rock.






That was the first "rock n' roll". That's where it started. Nearly everything post-British Invasion isn't rock in its "true spirit".

So, technically, "true" rock has been rightfully "dead" (I use that term loosely,if you couldn't tell) for the past 50 years.
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Rock isnt dead, but the industry is trying to convert music into just a money-making business with generic bands like the Jonas Brothers and Fall Out Boy. At least we still have classic rocks artists like AC/DC to show them that theres more to music then that

What do you think they were doing in the 60s and 70s? NOT trying to make money? Rock has almost always been a "money-making business". Since it was seen that it was popular, and could be a huge profit, labels jumped on it, and haven't let up since.

And AC/DC was one of them. They were massive popular, a label signed them, and now, ever since, they're plastered over so much merchandise that it's not even funny. I'm not saying they are/were marketed the same way as the "fad" bands of today, but there is very little difference between the bands, in terms of how they're sold and who likes them.
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#29
There are plenty of bands out there. The difference is that back in the day these bands were signed up on record labels cause people loved that. But now, they aren't signed and the ones who are signed tend to be the once who do it just for the money. Blame the target audience.
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#30
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Now, I think rock has lost its spirit. Like someone posted above, Rock and Roll was lost in the 60's. Guitarists like Jimi Hendrix and Eric Clapton took R&R and blues and created what we now think of as Rock. The 80's brought Heavy Metal and the 90's commandered Grunge. Then came the people that realized rock was about doing your own thing, which is good, but, unfortunately, these people created Alternative Rock. Since then, everyone who has called themselves rock has looked at the more modern musicians in place of the older ones. These people do not make their own style/sound as different as the people of the past. Now, let's look at the greats of their time:











This shows how much Rock has changed, and how there will always be guitar heros.
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#31
i'm just stopping by to let you know that anyone who uses the phrase "the true spirit of rock'n roll" qualifies as one of the biggest cheeseballs of all time.
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#34
It's still alive and well, you just have to look past all the bands like nickelback.
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What do you think they were doing in the 60s and 70s? NOT trying to make money? Rock has almost always been a "money-making business". Since it was seen that it was popular, and could be a huge profit, labels jumped on it, and haven't let up since.

And AC/DC was one of them. They were massive popular, a label signed them, and now, ever since, they're plastered over so much merchandise that it's not even funny. I'm not saying they are/were marketed the same way as the "fad" bands of today, but there is very little difference between the bands, in terms of how they're sold and who likes them.


No i meant into JUST a money-making business and not about the music. And forget AC/DC then, look at Zeppelin. They were hated by every critic, but they wrote and played what they wanted to cause they were in it for the music. Plus they didnt have many videos and stuff to make money off of
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Rock n' Roll was fatally wounded in 1970 and finally breathed its last death rattle of a gasp in 1980.
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Rock N' Roll died in 1989.
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#39
No, rock and roll has not died or anything like that. Im tired of all this Classic Rock nostalgia.
About the only thing that has changed is that you don't receive a brick of cocaine as your signing bonus nowadays.
And i call BS on "Led Zeppelin was in it for the music" and not the money, ^^^^, groupies and power which came with fame. I seriously can't understand how people can't accept anything that has been made in the past 20 years as music. They try to cling to this sense of antiquity and about the only defense that they have is "its better because its older". I understand if you grew up with the music, and it brings back good memories when you listen to it but a majority of these Classic Rock nerds are teenagers.
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No, rock and roll has not died or anything like that. Im tired of all this Classic Rock nostalgia.
About the only thing that has changed is that you don't receive a brick of cocaine as your signing bonus nowadays.
And i call BS on "Led Zeppelin was in it for the music" and not the money, ^^^^, groupies and power which came with fame. I seriously can't understand how people can't accept anything that has been made in the past 20 years as music. They try to cling to this sense of antiquity and about the only defense that they have is "its better because its older". I understand if you grew up with the music, and it brings back good memories when you listen to it but a majority of these Classic Rock nerds are teenagers.


Classic Rock actually DID rock! nowadays these pop and punk bands play the same same stuff with the same power chord progressions and lyrics. At least back in the 60s and 70s there was originality
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