#1
can it turn a perfectly nice and normal person into a monster in 2 years time?and will people notice the change?
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why do you ask? thinking of abusing some substance?

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2 years is enough time to become hooked, quit, stay off it for about a year, and then become hooked again for a lot of substances, man.
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I've seen people hooked in two months. So yes. As to the second question, would you notice if someone was losing a lot of weight, looked anxious everytime you saw them, had dark rings under their eyes, was sickly pale, never came out to hang with you guys anymore, and was never happy if they did until they went to the bathroom for a minute, and then came back relaxed?

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Meth is one drug that I will never, ever try.


Not even just... once?
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No it can't change a perfectly normal person into a monster, just a seemingly normal person. There has to be something inherently irregular about a person for a drug problem that severe to develop in the first place.

Normal people take drugs then shrug it off and return to normal life.
#16
2 years? ****, depending on the drug, it cold take 2 WEEKS before you become a hardcore addict. I've seen too many people go down that path. Just smoke some weed, or drop some acid if weed is too "boring". Don't go past that.
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Meth is one drug that I will never, ever try.

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Not even just... once?

I know a kid who did meth just once only because of that commercial.
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I could do the opposite of that too. Someone could be a total cocksmoker, than start smoking weed, and then chill out and not be a cocksmoker anymore. But then again weed isn't really an abused substance. It's really hard to od on it.

also, it can take two DAYS on some drugs. I was popping a lot of pills for a few days and 2 days after i was off from them I was real snappish and a real dick head.
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I could do the opposite of that too. Someone could be a total cocksmoker, than start smoking weed, and then chill out and not be a cocksmoker anymore. But then again weed isn't really an abused substance. It's really hard to od on it.

also, it can take two DAYS on some drugs. I was popping a lot of pills for a few days and 2 days after i was off from them I was real snappish and a real dick head.


You can't OD on weed.

Which leads me to believe you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
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You can't OD on weed.

Well technically you can, but it invloves smoking an ungodly amount of weed (something liked 50 pounds) in a really short time (like half an hour). And they say that you would die of asphyxiation before you actually OD'd.

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#24
Definitely. If you choose to do any substance, moderation is key. (Which is real hard if you don't keep yourself in check. Doing a hard drug should never be accustomed to or something that you feel mentally "normal" with.)
#25
Depends. If you smoke pot now and then you probably won't see any significant changes, but if someone starts a habit with ANYTHING it'll change them.
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Depends. If you smoke pot now and then you probably won't see any significant changes, but if someone starts a habit with ANYTHING it'll change them.

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just look at how quick people get hooked on porn, why would drugs be any different.

Because the hormones pumping through your body aren't torturing you if you aren't already addicted?
#28
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Pot smoking will change you but it will be longer than 2 years. The friends I have that smoke it are radically different from how they were 3 or 4 years ago, they become centered around it and think about it constantly. As with any drug you build up tolerance, and in the course of 2 years any person's tolerance levels are going to change, no matter how casual the use (unless you are only doing it every 3 or 4 months, which is doubtful and very rare). As the tolerance builds so does the addiction, causing the person to seek higher amounts of the drug or a drug with more effects. Chances are a person wont be exclusively doing the same drug for 2 years. Even with pot, I've seen my friends use exclusively pot for a couple years then go to cocaine and heavier, this isn't to say pot is a gateway drug because they all started with alcohol and cigarettes, but tolerance will radically alter a person over the span of 2 years.

Well really, what person won't change in two years time? I've known a guy since seventh grade, we're seniors now and I think he's been smoking for three years now. He's changed definitely, but I wouldn't say he's become any more of a pothead. I myself have been doing it for about 4 months now, no one seems to think I've changed. It's all personal.
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Well really, what person won't change in two years time? I've known a guy since seventh grade, we're seniors now and I think he's been smoking for three years now. He's changed definitely, but I wouldn't say he's become any more of a pothead. I myself have been doing it for about 4 months now, no one seems to think I've changed. It's all personal.



Yeah, people criticizing teenagers for change often wrongly cite it to drugs.


..... It is more than common for teens to change rapidly in personality. Very rapidly. (That being said, some teens change for the worse from chemical addiction, but I think many people have some serious hindsight bias when figuring out why somebody changed.)

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Pot smoking will change you but it will be longer than 2 years. The friends I have that smoke it are radically different from how they were 3 or 4 years ago, they become centered around it and think about it constantly. As with any drug you build up tolerance, and in the course of 2 years any person's tolerance levels are going to change, no matter how casual the use (unless you are only doing it every 3 or 4 months, which is doubtful and very rare). As the tolerance builds so does the addiction, causing the person to seek higher amounts of the drug or a drug with more effects. Chances are a person wont be exclusively doing the same drug for 2 years. Even with pot, I've seen my friends use exclusively pot for a couple years then go to cocaine and heavier, this isn't to say pot is a gateway drug because they all started with alcohol and cigarettes, but tolerance will radically alter a person over the span of 2 years.



Err..... tolerance from marijuana isn't anything near permanent. Heavy amphetamine and opiate users build up tolerances that last for years, but that isn't really the case for cannabis.


I can still get high as hell off of splitting a bowl with somebody as long as I'm not in a period of frequent smoking. The first time I smoked was ~4 years ago. I know nobody like you described.
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but the majority of cases I witnessed back in high school turned into dependency and beginning stages of addiction to the point I where I saw friends go through shakes, headaches, and other withdraw symptoms when they weren't using for a few days.



That sounds dramatic. I was smoking with friends and high all the time for about a month into the summer and had to stop. It wasn't bad at all, tbh. Kind of felt refreshing to not be constantly intoxicated, took a two month break. (Cigarettes are ten times worse and alcohol is pretty hard to turn down.)
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also, it can take two DAYS on some drugs. I was popping a lot of pills for a few days and 2 days after i was off from them I was real snappish and a real dick head.


That's just a standard comedown, loads of people would get that.

I know people who go on week/month long MDMA and ketamine binges, and their doing degrees! If anything, most of them just seem to want to party a bit harder, all the time. Which is fine by me.

Obviously there are people who literally let it run their life though, it's almost scary to talk to some them!
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Well technically you can, but it invloves smoking an ungodly amount of weed (something liked 50 pounds) in a really short time (like half an hour). And they say that you would die of asphyxiation before you actually OD'd.

And btw in your profile it should be "Franz Liszt" not "Frank Lizst."


Well technically, that isn't ODing

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Pot smoking will change you but it will be longer than 2 years. The friends I have that smoke it are radically different from how they were 3 or 4 years ago, they become centered around it and think about it constantly. As with any drug you build up tolerance, and in the course of 2 years any person's tolerance levels are going to change, no matter how casual the use (unless you are only doing it every 3 or 4 months, which is doubtful and very rare). As the tolerance builds so does the addiction, causing the person to seek higher amounts of the drug or a drug with more effects. Chances are a person wont be exclusively doing the same drug for 2 years. Even with pot, I've seen my friends use exclusively pot for a couple years then go to cocaine and heavier, this isn't to say pot is a gateway drug because they all started with alcohol and cigarettes, but tolerance will radically alter a person over the span of 2 years.

You are dumb for making such a generalization based on incorrect premises.
Your friends are dumb for letting substances get the better of them. The changes you describe cannot be attributed to the substances themselves, but to your friends failure to control themselves or failure to choose to control themselves.
#36
I think I'm starting to get addicted to Oxycodone....that stuff is just so awesome. I didn't take any today and I feel like crap.
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I think I'm starting to get addicted to Oxycodone....that stuff is just so awesome. I didn't take any today and I feel like crap.

I did the painkiller thing for a while, and realized the potential for addiction. I never do it now. Just stop for a while to get your body back to normal, and don't use it liberally.
#39
Pot is relatively harmless, except for people who are already predisposed to any mental illnesses or anxiety. Personally, I used to smoke it, but then I started getting panic/anxiety attacks after smoking and I started getting really bad depersonalization/derealization even when I wasn't high (pretty much having the vision changes of pot where your perception and vision gets changed, except without any euphoria or munchies or anything). Some pot heads may be thinking "having the vision effects of pot 24/7??? Awesome!" But really, it freaks you out a lot and is terrifying. It's like a 24/7 bad weed trip. I haven't smoked in probably about a year now, and it's slowly going away. I'm glad to say I don't get anxiety attacks anymore.

On the other hand, I know a few people who have smoked it almost daily for years, and nothing changed/is wrong with them.

But on topic, stick to weed/shrooms/lsd. Don't try the harder stuff. It's not worth it.
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Get hooked on hard drugs. It's what all the cool kids do. The other guys posting in this thread are just jealous that they won't be as cool as you.
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