#1
We had to make a public presentation of an argument paper. And it has to have comments on it from people. Can you guys look over my argument and comment it for me? I fail the class if it is not spread enough.

ITS ABOUT POT!
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#3
you would have gotten 200 replies by now if you had mentioned it had to do with weed
#5
First of all, you shouldn't summarize a serious article with the words 'Smoke up'.

And my opinion on the topic is this: The definition of 'criminal'(in law) is an act that threatens the community in general. The definition of a 'civil' offense is that it threatens only one other individual. Weed does neither. Therefore it shouldn't have any laws governing it.
#6
Quote by RedGravy
First of all, you shouldn't summarize a serious article with the words 'Smoke up'.

And my opinion on the topic is this: The definition of 'criminal'(in law) is an act that threatens the community in general. The definition of a 'civil' offense is that it threatens only one other individual. Weed does neither. Therefore it shouldn't have any laws governing it.



Great, can you comment the blog? thats what I need to pass
#9
Don't mention weed in school. That means

1. Automatic drug testing

2. They'll call your parents

3. They'll make you see a counselor

4. They'll continue to question you and possibly make you take a polygraph test.
#10
*cough, cough*

It really should be legal... but that hasn't stopped anyone anyway
#11
It doesn't have to be made legal, the people that want to smoke it and know where to acquire it can easily. I've smoked pot for nearly 8 years and have smoked in public places several hundred times I'd guess by now. Never have been caught and don't know anyone that has.

High life ftw.
#12
Quote by i_killed_bill
Don't mention weed in school. That means

1. Automatic drug testing

2. They'll call your parents

3. They'll make you see a counselor

4. They'll continue to question you and possibly make you take a polygraph test.


They'll at least check your locker whether you know or not.
#14
Quote by i_killed_bill
Don't mention weed in school. That means

1. Automatic drug testing

2. They'll call your parents

3. They'll make you see a counselor

4. They'll continue to question you and possibly make you take a polygraph test.



I have written several controversial papers at my school involving pot, porn, sex, the word ****, and why my school sucks.

nobody cares
#15
needs to be pressured on our new president, and our new government


No comma here.
#16
I commented. It says my comment is queved for approval. Anyway, when it gets approved mine will be the long one that has enumerated advice.

I didn't fix any of you diction, syntax, ect... I only looked at your ideas.
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#18
Legalization of Marijuana. While the topic may seem “played out” by some readers of this [of what?], I feel that work still needs to be pressured [work needs to be pressured?] on our new president , and our new government [abbreviate to "our new President and government] to seriously consider [the] legalization of marijuana, or at least nation-wide decriminalization.


With the legalization of marijuana, our police force’s time will be noticeably more open, leaving them with more time to arrest criminals who are truly hurting our society. I compare this to Amsterdam’s situation with prostitution. Before the practice was legalized, the John was subject to harm from a pimp [the John? consider eliminating slang] and could potentially result in murder and [too many ands] other heinous crimes. Now that the practice is legalized, when a prostitute is in trouble from a John [again, no slang], she can hit a button in the booth and the cops come instead of a violent pimp. This eliminated a large portion of mob and gang activity in Amsterdam with legalization in affect. It [it?] can be applied in a parallel situation with marijuana. Most of it [again, what is "it"?] can be traced back to gang or mob activity and if it is legalized, and the gangs are undersold and put “out of business”, then they will fade away, which will therefore make our society a better place.

And here I come to an argument that I have never seen a single refutation for [this whole sentence needs to be replaced]. Alcohol and cigarettes are both legal commodities and consumption of both is encouraged to extents. Well, last time I checked [where did you check? where are you getting this information?], BOTH OF THESE SUBSTANCES ARE FATAL [seriously, all caps?]! Is pot a toxic substance that can result in death? Hardly. There are few registered deaths linked closely with marijuana, and at the same time, there are hundreds upon thousands of deaths of people from alcohol and cigarette related incidents all the time. Many people drink or smoke cigs to calm down from the day and relieve stress. Well, a chemical in marijuana known as THC relieves stress, and causes the “high” feeling that one gets upon smoking it and one joint can successfully calm someone down with less harm than an alcoholic drink or a cigarette. [are you expected to come up with sources?]

Coupled with this is the association marijuana has [don't end on a verb]. People lump it in with drugs such as cocaine, heroin, and methamphetamines but those drugs are what are known as “hard drugs” while marijuana is categorized as a “soft drug”. Hard drugs are those that kill very easily and are also strongly addictive. Soft drugs are hardly harmful at all, and contain few habit-forming properties. Some go so far as to say that to call marijuana a drug is to call bald a hair color. [best to elaborate instead of assuming that the reader will do so]

It is quite difficult to overdose on marijuana as well, as one must eat half their body weight in under an hour to fatally overdose on it, yet if one eats that much of anything that quickly they will die, whether they are consuming marijuana, pizza, or apples.
For these reasons [reiterate the actual reasons] , marijuana must be legalized within the United States of America, and possibly throughout the world as well. Smoke up [seriously? promoting drug use in school is never a good idea].
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#19
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#20
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#21
I see what your getting at in the first paragraph, but it's a little confusing the way its written.

The second paragraph the reasoning is all wrong. The government hasn't banned the products because are harmful. The government has banned them because they haven't figured out a way to tax them.

Able to Tax: Tobacco, Alcohol

Not Able to Tax: Marijuana, Cocaine, etc
#22
Quote by Captain Insano
I see what your getting at in the first paragraph, but it's a little confusing the way its written.

The second paragraph the reasoning is all wrong. The government hasn't banned the products because are harmful. The government has banned them because they haven't figured out a way to tax them.

Able to Tax: Tobacco, Alcohol

Not Able to Tax: Marijuana, Cocaine, etc


Doesn't really make sense since taxing marijuana was the first step in making it illegal. What makes these substances so special that they can't be taxed?
#24
Quote by Godsmack_IV
Doesn't really make sense since taxing marijuana was the first step in making it illegal. What makes these substances so special that they can't be taxed?


It's done underground. Underground means people don't report profits they make, obviously there is no sales tax.

Same thing as moonshine.
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#25
Quote by Captain Insano
It's done underground. Underground means people don't report profits they make, obviously there is no sales tax.

Same thing as moonshine.


It's done underground because it's banned, the reason they can't tax it is because they're banned. Circular arguments ftl.
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#27
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It's done underground because it's banned, the reason they can't tax it is because they're banned. Circular arguments ftl.


Hypothhetical situation:

Marijuana has been legalized, so long as you buy it from a legitiment store.

In New York the tax on a 5 dollar carton of cigarettes is $2.75, (in NYC it's S4.75). So lets asume that the tax on marijuana is going to somewhere in the neighborhood of 3-5 dollars.

The store is selling highly regulated, less potent weed for 15 bucks for a dime.

Your dealer is still selling the good ol' stuff for 10 bucks for a dime.

Who are you going to buy it from?

The black market is so well established that legalization and legitimaization are not going to make the product that much more taxable. No one is going to buy it from a place they will be taxed from, they are going to get from the places they always have.

The government won't make money from it being made legal, so there not going to do it.
#28
lol, you realize that the intrinsic value of weed is dirt cheap right? even if the government did impose a ridiculous tax (5$ on every gram lmao), private organizations could still profit from it's sale. and why are we regulating the potency of weed to assure black market stability?
#29
Quote by Godsmack_IV
lol, you realize that the intrinsic value of weed is dirt cheap right? even if the government did impose a ridiculous tax (5$ on every gram lmao), private organizations could still profit from it's sale. and why are we regulating the potency of weed to assure black market stability?


Tobacco sin't that valuable either and they've managed to slap a pretty hefty tax on that, so I'm the same would be done to weed.

I guess it really depends on how much profit could be made. But since the government hasn't legalized pot yet, I'm assuming that they wouldn't be able to make that much money from it.

Our government has tons of silly regulations for evey other insdustry. I don't see why marijuana would be imune.
#31
tobacco is more valuable than weed, it's harder to grow and yet you can get multiple grams all nicely rolled up in papers with filters on them already for about half what you predicted the price of legal weed to be. The actual value of weed comes up to roughly 0.33$ a gram (http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_9842.aspx), I'm sure stores could find a way to sell it profitably while underselling the black market, even if they have to add a ridiculous 5$ tax.

I guess it really depends on how much profit could be made. But since the government hasn't legalized pot yet, I'm assuming that they wouldn't be able to make that much money from it


I'd say 6.7 billion is a lot of money. (http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bal-md.rodricks02dec02,0,6096088.column)

Our government has tons of silly regulations for evey other insdustry. I don't see why marijuana would be imune.


As you have stated, the government is influenced by money very easily. If they were to legalize marijuana, they'd do it so they could steal the most money they could from the black market.
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