#1
Since being here for a while now, it seems obvious UG absolutely hates these amps.. But I've looked them and and compared them to others, and it's not that much different from the price range

So MG's and spiders are supposed to have "sh!t" sound, but isn't it kinda obvious as most of the low-end amps? I don't have either of these, nor am I promoting them, but I'm just curious..
#2
i think its just the way they are marketed. mgs are like the squires of marshalls, and spiders do just kinda sound bad. the problem is that gc pushes em like hotcakes. i talked to a guy there when i was looking for amps and he suggested the spider, thats when i decided to buy local lol
#3
We think that there are much better sounding amps in the price range, WHICH THERE ARE.

The Peavy Vypyr and Roland Cube are two right off the bat.

#4
their price range is huge..

sure there isn't much that compares to the 10 watt marshall MG, but they also make 100 watt versions of it, even halfstack versions

i think people will agree that they can be decent PRACTICE amps for bedrooms and nothing more than that, so like the 10 or 15 watt version can be acceptable in that situation but when people start spending a few hundred dollars on an amplifier, they should NOT get an MG or spider III. Good amps start around 300 dollars for a cheap tube amp, so there's no reason to spend that much money on a crappy amp.
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#5
Roland Cube 15X. Same price as the popular Spider III 15W, much better. Peavey Rage 258. $10 more, infinitely better. Both less than a comparable MG.

As we move up into 30-watts(any point after this and IMO your buying a tube amp and liking it), we have a $175 Cube 20X. Same price of $200 as a 30-watt Spider, Peavey Envoy 110. As for the MG, at the same price you can get a same wattage Roland Cube 30 for the same price or a same wattage Vox VT30 for a well-worth-it$20 more.

There's always much better.

Plus the fact these things ever had 30-plus watt versions built is absolute crap.
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#6
i think alot of it is because with other lowend practice amps, they come in a pack
so yo udon't have a choice, but once you decide to move on to your next amp it should be noticably better, MG's and spiders arent much better than the Frontmans and whatnot that come with your first Guitar
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#7
MGs break within 6 months usually. They sound alright but you'll be buying a new one every few months. Spiders just sound terrible, there are much better cleans on different modeling amps around that price range like the vypyr and the distortion sounds terrible.
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#8
Actually, to the guy that made a comment about Frontmans, they make decent clean practice amps.
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Actually, to the guy that made a comment about Frontmans, they make decent clean practice amps.


As someone who went to tubes from one, agreed, althougha ny gain whatsoever eats it's tone alive.
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As someone who went to tubes from one, agreed, althougha ny gain whatsoever eats it's tone alive.



Notice the the specification of CLEAN practice amp
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#11
They do make ok practice amps but they're not great at all, the Spider IMO is worse. The Frontman mentioned does have a decent clean but like said, it's gain channel is just horrible.
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We think that there are much better sounding amps in the price range, WHICH THERE ARE.

The Peavy Vypyr and Roland Cube are two right off the bat.

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#14
Because most of UG are total dipshits who spout whatever bollocks the most respected users happen to believe. The MGs aren't bad at all IMO, especially compared to some others in that price range (Roland Cube ).
#15
MGs= The tone isn't as bad as most UGers will have you believe (although it's not Zakk Wylde's CRUSHING OVERDRIVE!!) but they break easily.

Spiders= They have pretty digital tones even for a modeling amp.

Personally I like the Frontman as a practice amp; it takes pedals better than modelers and at least has a decent clean channel.
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#16
i tried an MG for a longer amount of time yesterday.
i'm off the crazy flaming bandwagon, though there are better amps for the price.
midsize mg combos are alright. it's just that the tiny ones ACTUALLY suck, and the huge ones are wayy overpriced.
either way, i'd take a valvetronix or vypyr over it. but it was quite decent.
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Ill agree MG's are decent for practicing, but seriously, the Roland Cubes are better.
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#20
i have an MG.
it sounds generally ok with my LP..can get nice enough cleans.
heres the secret for a nice distortion.
i use my jackson (im guessing anything with hot p/ups will work) gain set around 3/4.
bass cranked
contour around 6
treble around 6...i find the contour and treble should stay relative to each other..if u bring one up, bring the other with it to keep it from sounding harsh, and vice versa..
turn the "tube" switch off. makes it sound brittle
AND. use the line out kiddies. i record direct into my digital unit like this. its all in the line-out..u dont get that ****ty speaker sound. the line-out is the answer IMO..

as for spiders(ex bandmate had one) . talk about worst cleans ive ever heard.EVER.honestly 10 watt fender SS blow those cleans out of the water IMO.

gain, sounds soooo compressed. if u wanna alternate pick like "banananananananannan" it'll work, cuz theres so much compression and it all sounds lumped together...just beware when u get playin through a different amp, the compression your used to wont be there..

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#21
Distortions on MG's IMO are horrible. Cleans are ok though
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#22
There's no such thing as a terrible amp, IMO. Every amp has a use.

Like I've said before, I use my MG for jazz cleans or really nasty fuzzy tone, like for a garage band or Black Keys/White Stripes-ish stuff.
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