#1
I'm looking for a new amp for bedroom playing. I'd like a tube amp really.

I've been looking at the Orange Tiny Terror and 1 x 12" cab, switchable between 7 and 15W so shouldn't be too noisy for bedroom stuff. Also looking at the Blackheart BH5H Little Giant with a 1 x 12" cab. Don't know which will be best for metal so am looking for some first hand recommendations.

Also looking at what effects to go with it, as I currently use a crappy Line 6 Spider III which has built in FX. Looking at the Metal Muff with top boost for distortion, not sure what else to look at.

Will all be used with a Schecter C1 Hellraiser with EMG 81 and 85.

Budget of about £400ish.

Thanks in advance.
Last edited by J.P.6 at Jan 25, 2009,
#2
are you gonna use the amp distortion or pedal distortion? where's your location?
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Head and Cab for $130? You don't need a head and cabinet, you need a psychological examination.
#4
The Tiny Terror would be a waste for metal, it's not particularily good for it.

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#5
If you can afford 7-800 bucks, go with a Bugera 333XL Head and Bugera cab, or go with the Bugera 333XL-212 combo. 120W all tube, awesome distortion with great clean and crunch channels. 4 12AX7 tubes in the preamp with four EL34 tubes in the power section. It's badass and sounds ****ing awesome.

If you can only afford like 400 bucks, Peavey Vypyr.
#6
Quote by Chrisiphone
The Tiny Terror would be a waste for metal, it's not particularily good for it.


+1 Tiny Terror's are some of the most overrated amps out there imo

a bugera might be okay, i would try it out though, they have a bad reputation for reliability, and are usually somewhat of a love/hate thing

if not a tube amp, go for a cube or vypyr, they do well for solid states
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#7
keep in mind that pedals just try to copy the sound of a good amp distortion. with the price range of 400 pounds, i think you could get an amp with good distortion. im not sure what would be best for you in england, but im sure someone could help you out
periphery/bulb!

gear:
Ibanez RG7321 w/ D-sonic in bridge

Peavey 5150 mk ii & b52 4x12 cab

line 6 podxt for recording

Quote by AsOneIStand
Head and Cab for $130? You don't need a head and cabinet, you need a psychological examination.
#8
What about if the amp doesn't have a distortion setting though? You'd have to use a pedal?

Anyone used a Blackheart?
#9
basically in most situations (and with that budget) you're going to want to try to avoid using a distortion pedal

99.9% of the time:
good amp distortion>distortion pedal

i don't say good distortion pedal, because there are hardly any, and by the time you do, they end up costing way too much

point is go and try out a bugera, see if it is for you, if not than go for a cube or a vypyr

and blackhearts aren't usually in the metal territory of gain if i'm not mistaken
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#11
If you do get a tiny terror, you most certainly do not need a distortion pedal, the amp has way too much gain on its own. An EQ pedal makes the TT rather useful, but an overdrive is also a good idea.
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Orange Tiny Terror >
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#12
What about the Randall RG50TC?
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^Horrible amp, really muddy and unreliable.
A metal band?
Gear:
A Guitar with an LFR > Korg Pitchblack > Behringer EQ > Hardwire CM-2 Overdrive Boss SD-1 > Hardwire CR-7 Chorus>
Orange Tiny Terror >
LzR Engineering 212 cab

My other amp can run Crysis
#14
Quote by FischmungaXTR
^Horrible amp, really muddy and unreliable.



I have never heard that in my life.

Have you had personal experience with the amp?
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Quote by Chance125
I have never heard that in my life.

Have you had personal experience with the amp?

Yes, two of them.
A metal band?
Gear:
A Guitar with an LFR > Korg Pitchblack > Behringer EQ > Hardwire CM-2 Overdrive Boss SD-1 > Hardwire CR-7 Chorus>
Orange Tiny Terror >
LzR Engineering 212 cab

My other amp can run Crysis
#17
Why on earth do you need a valve amp for bedroom playing? Even if you did need a valve amp, you certainly don't need a valve amp with 120w!! If you REALLY need a valve amp then you could look at these:

http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=75485
Laney VC-30 for £399 or just get the 15w version for £282. They're not really gain monsters so you'd need a pedal for distortion and the Metal Muff is good or look at a Seymour Duncan Twin Tube Metal Mayhem, which is superb.

http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=74093
The Spider Valve wasn't really ideal for me and it's way too powerful for what you need but at £408 it's about on budget and would give you loads of tonal options without any need for a seperate distortion pedal.

http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=72274
Personally I simply wouldn't spend this much money on any 5w amp but it's supposed to be very good so why not take a look.

http://www.dv247.com/invt/53196/
Again, it's way more power than you need with 60w of tube power but the modeling section will give you loads of options and you won't need any additional pedals. It's a similar idea to the Spider Valve but expect it to be rather better.

Truth be told, if this is just for bedroom playing then I simply wouldn't waste my money on a valve amp as it's just not needed and there are loads of ways of getting great bedroom sounds at far less money. Consider these:

http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=78308
Only £169 and a great sounding amp that is more than powerful enough providing you don't want to play high gain Metal.

http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=70527
A steal at only £118 and great for Metal but if you're more into Classic Rock then the Vox is better.

http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=77819
Easily powerful enough at 30w and only £149. It's also arguably the best modeling amp currently available and you could still have loads left over if you bought the 75w version at £249. For either one you could also buy the Sanpera II pedal to go with it for £99 and STILL have change.

Now let's think outside the box a bit for bedroom playing. Why not buy a multi FX system with amp modeling and play through some good headphones like a set of Sony cordless. Multi FX units will give you a wider variety of higher quality sounds than any practice amp and you'll also be able to record direct to the computer. Hell, you could use it live and plug straight into the PA! I use one of these systems for practice and it's the best thing I've ever done. Better than any amp I've tried in the home.

http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=75548
More options here than you'll ever realistically use

http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=76637
This is a great piece of gear at only about half your budget. Sounds are excellent and the computer interface is superb. This is even the top of the range at the moment, though I think they're currently releasing an RP1000. Still, you could still have the excellent RP250 and save an extra £100 if you wanted.

http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=74120
Personally I prefer Digitech amp models to Line 6 or even Boss ones but this is still a popular unit that will work well with headphones and there's loads of support online.

http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=73005
Superb sounding amp models though struggles a bit with modern high gain. Still, at only £259 you have plenty money left over to get a good distortion pedal to use with it.

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#19
trust me dude, you sound like your pushing yourself to NEED a tube amp, even though it isnt necessarily the answer. get a pod x3 and some good studio monitors, or even run in into the mp3 input on your spider.
periphery/bulb!

gear:
Ibanez RG7321 w/ D-sonic in bridge

Peavey 5150 mk ii & b52 4x12 cab

line 6 podxt for recording

Quote by AsOneIStand
Head and Cab for $130? You don't need a head and cabinet, you need a psychological examination.