Poll: should my jazz have an alder or ash body?
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alder
16 27%
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43 73%
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#1
So...

Soon i'll be buying a fender deluxe active jazz and i want opinions

should i get it with an alder or an ash body?

opinions and reasons please.
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#2
Try to play both! You'll hardly hear the difference.
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#3
Ash because it will be lighter, Fender Jazz basses have a good range already.
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#4
ash is brighter and lighter so i'd go for that.

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#5
I'd have to go with ash, especially if you're into slap bass. It adds a little extra high-end "snap" that you wouldn't notice very much unless you played an alder bass beside it. Alder sounds good, ash just sounds better

Just my $.02
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#6
ash. cleaner, better looking grain, lighter...

it is just win.
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#7
The difference is pretty minimal to me, but I would go with ash over alder. I've always thought of it as a "better" wood for whatever reason. It's a little tighter sounding, but the difference is very subtle.
#8
Ash, because, yea, its a brighter and cleaner, and tighter.

its a subtle difference, but it is an awesome difference
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#10
I own 2 ash Fenders, including my 16lbs '51 Precision, so don't tell me it's lighter.

As has a crisper top and a deeper bottom - plus it's hollower in the midrange. That's my kinda thing - clear. Plus, few argue that it looks nicer.
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#11
Well, even though it's a bit hollower in the midrange, let's not forget about those low mids ash certainly packs. That growly, sexy tone. *drool*

And yeah, I'd go for ash...
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#12
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I own 2 ash Fenders, including my 16lbs '51 Precision, so don't tell me it's lighter.

As has a crisper top and a deeper bottom - plus it's hollower in the midrange. That's my kinda thing - clear. Plus, few argue that it looks nicer.


yeah but a 51 has a slab body doesn't it? so it will have a greater volume of wood anyway. there is also always variation between different trees, so you might have just got a really dense piece?

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#13
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yeah but a 51 has a slab body doesn't it? so it will have a greater volume of wood anyway. there is also always variation between different trees, so you might have just got a really dense piece?

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the one 51' I played was similarly heavy.

it sure aint a high density bridge weighing it down.

one thing I had been hoping for from the Fender people this year was a 51 upgrade model, with a BA and jazz style neck. oh well.
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#14
I think people are getting confused between Swamp Ash (seriously stupidly light) and Hard Ash, which isn't.

If it's hard ash, meh. It's just a bit brighter and a bit heavier. If it's Swamp Ash, go for the ash.

Either way, I would say go for something different to your normal Jazz basses.
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#16
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yeah but a 51 has a slab body doesn't it? so it will have a greater volume of wood anyway. there is also always variation between different trees, so you might have just got a really dense piece?

The ones I've played since are half the weight - and the contours are so subtle that the difference in weight isn't 8lbs. I have a dense old piece, but the point is, ash is as light and as heavy as any hunk of alder - or, at the very least, it's not "lightweight."
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#17
ash does look nicer.. tonally theres little difference
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#18
Ash for allthe reasons stated above^

I never knew you had a choice of wood anyway?
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#19
chris this bass is to replace my current jazzes not join them.

fitzy what's the B like on the 5 string model?
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#20
Theres an american deluxe 4 string on ebay for 700 buy it now or make an offer, if your interested.
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#21
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chris this bass is to replace my current jazzes not join them.

fitzy what's the B like on the 5 string model?


Eh, I would go for Alder then. Mainly because ash just cannot get that Jazz bass sound.

If you wanted that proper oldschool tone, ash just doesn't get it. I dunno. It's a tricky one.
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#22
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Theres an american deluxe 4 string on ebay for 700 buy it now or make an offer, if your interested.


sadly i don't have 700 of any worthwhile currency at the moment
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#23
I'd say get the ash. I have an Ash-bodied Jazz and i think it sounds better than alder, though many people on talkbass tend to say it makes a minimal difference besides the appearance.
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#25
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fitzy what's the B like on the 5 string model?

You're aware I have the AMERICAN Deluxe model and not the Active Deluxe model. My model's probably 1600 quid. It's like $2600 list.

That said, the B string is as solid as all B strings are - I don't believe that anything past the bridge or before the nut does any difference. Tension is a ratio between string gauge, length, and pitch.
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#26
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You're aware I have the AMERICAN Deluxe model and not the Active Deluxe model. My model's probably 1600 quid. It's like $2600 list.

That said, the B string is as solid as all B strings are - I don't believe that anything past the bridge or before the nut does any difference. Tension is a ratio between string gauge, length, and pitch.


yes i know you have the american deluxe and i'm going for the american deluxe

this one

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or this one

http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/options.php?id=67500

haven't quite decided yet
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#27


I want an American Deluxe Jazz Bass...
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#28
Oh, gotcha - for some reason from the initial post I understood the MIM Active Deluxe.

What's concerning is how many colours the alder one comes in - Fender has not made a teal green trans MIADX Jazz in forever, and the fact that it's an upcharge leads me to believe it's ash - a 2003 model before they differentiated the 2 types of woods as separate models. Avoid.
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#29
if i buy alder it'll be black and if i buy ash it'll be the tobacco sunburst. both with maple fretboards
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#31
i have a thing for maple and black though, it's like the tuxedo of bass finishes. and if i get the black one the pickguard is going straight in the bin in favour of a black one. and then a chrome pickup cover because i like them, they look classy
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#33
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when you put it that way i think i'm more inclined towards the classy one
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#34
US DX's don't come in black. They come in Montego Black. That is, black with gold flecks, with a slight gold reflection. And a ridiculous gold pickguard.

Now, if you were to swap the pickguard for a black one...
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#35
bloody gold sparkly paint, why can't fender use normal colours. now i'm edging towards the tobacco sunburst ash model. anything i should know about it?
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#36
That it's awesome. See my pics.

EDIT: Keep in mind that mine is a lot lighter around the edges than I thought it would be. To be honest, I was hoping it was going to fade to pretty much black, not that light caramel. People sometimes think it's Cherry Transparent or whatever the other colour was. I think it's the most timeless looking MIA DX bass colour combo, besides maybe 3TSB with the mint guard.

EDIT EDIT: The picture for the GAK site is that of the aforementioned and discontinued Cherry Transparent (with the sparkly whit pickguard). Both colour choices are NOT pictured. However, Butterscotch Blonde looks very, very cool with the black pickguard and looks a thousand times better in person.
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#37
i've never been a fan of butterscotch blonde. i might go for the 3tsb but then i've had a 3tsb bass with a maple fretboard before and i felt i couldn't use it for a lot of things because it didn't fit asthetically. Stupid i know but lets face it the music industry is as much about image as anything else
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#38
I will add that when your willing to spend that much on an instrument you want something that you like to look at, and looks good in general.
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#39
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I will add that when your willing to spend that much on an instrument you want something that you like to look at, and looks good in general.


yeah also this. i just spent the last 20 minutes looking at the finish options of the MIA DX jazz and there are none that appeal to me at all except maybe the 3tsb or white alder models or tobacco burst ash model
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#40
Hmm, Ya, i suppose if you see them in person they might be different and a bit mopre to your tastes or not. Theres also the FMT if you want to put down alot of money on a bass and it has 24 frets, tabacco burst, or cherry.
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