#1
Hey R&R, I want to get into record but have been having trouble finding good equipment for a good price. I'll start by saying I've never owned a piece of recording equipment before - just the typical guitar, amp, pedals, etc.

First off, I'm looking for a FireWire mixer but I have no idea what I'm looking for. I bought a really nice laptop recently and ditched the desktop. The laptop has a FireWire port (4-pin I believe) and I was told this was the way to go for recording. Most FireWire mixers I've seen are pricey and the cheap ones, well, I have no idea what I'm looking for spec. wise. I plan on, for now that is, just to record myself in my room or basement. This isn't a full band thing but if the mixer can support that I may give it a try down the road.

So, anyway, before I ask the godly users of UG for help, I want to know if this package is any good/worth the money:
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-FireWire-Recording-Package?sku=243009

I don't own any microphones or any other recording stuff like I said before. Is this package worth it? The mixer it comes with is here for more info.:
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-Xenyx-502-Mixer?sku=631262

And even if that mixer is crap, would that package be worth the $300 (seems cheap to me) and then go and pick up a better mixer? I really am not sure and being pointed in the right direction would be great.

P.S.
Last but not least, I have one more side question. A friend told me not to get a mixer and just get a sound card. At first I was like "wtf" because I thought he meant a computer sound card but then he showed me stuff like this (I have no idea if this one is good, just picked a random one):
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/MAudio-FireWire-410-Computer-Recording-Interface?sku=701385

Are sound cards better than mixers? Or do they even do the same thing and he had no idea what he was talking about?
Last edited by Andie_dog2 at Jan 26, 2009,
#2
a few questions.

1) whats your budget
2) if your only going to be using 2 channels simultaneously, firewire is pretty much overkill and no better than usb. If you want to record more, the presonus firepod is a good firewire solution.

That behringer pack is ok... nothing special, i think there is an maudio one that is much more worth your time (ill get the link in a sec)

Mixer is pretty useless unless you wanna do hardware mixing or if your going to use it as a live mixer.

Ok here are 3 packages, they are a bit more but alot more worth it.

http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Digidesign-Pro-Tools-Mbox-2-Factory-Package?sku=702527

http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Digidesign-Pro-Tools-Mbox-2-Package?sku=702526

http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/PreSonus-Firestudio-Project-Recording-Package?sku=482341


theyre all pretty close price wise but obviously the maudio stuff has pro tools where the presonus (more for more than 2 simultaneous tracks and has cubase LE)

After that you'll want an sm57.

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#3
All three of the packages look good but a little pricey. I can definitely spend that much if that's what I should invest in though.

What I'm confused is what I would actually want. I really have no clue then. First off, why would FireWire be an overkill? It seems cheaper and I can't see that being a negative thing for recording. I guess I just need that clarified a bit more.

Secondly, if I were to pick one of those packages, which one would I pick and why? I guess I'll re-specify what I'm looking to do recording wise:
I just want to do single recording - electric guitar, bass, acoustic, maybe vocals, drums, etc. but all at my own pace and pretty much all on my own. I may do band related stuff in the future with friends but still, that isn't a main priority.

Edit: Btw your threads are really good and informative, thanks for that too.
Last edited by Andie_dog2 at Jan 26, 2009,
#4
Firewire is overkill because usb works exactly the same, its not bad, but not necessary if you see something cheaper and usb. For 2 channels anyway.

The reason i suggest those options is because pro tools is the industry standard, also the hardware IS better quality.

I'm not one of those behringer haters, but the other stuff IS better.

Its up to you dude, looking at it it is 300 more for (IMO better hardware and software) but for what your doing it should be fine. If you want to do drums well you WILL need the firepod/studio thing and a lot more mics.

When you eventually want to upgrade you will probably want to get rid of the behringer stuff though.
Last edited by doommaker at Jan 26, 2009,
#5
So would you recommend saving up for (well, I think I have the money now but there is other things I would like to purchase first...) the PreSonus FireStudio then? It seems like a good buy for what I'm doing and future endeavors.
#6
the firestudio will cover you for the future, hell i know people still using the motu 828mkii (pretty much the equivalent but with line ins instead of preamps.. well it has 2 but still) And then after that if you wanna go high end, buy some apogee a/d converters and then some good preamps (api 512, great river me-1nv/mp-2nv, avalon ad2022/vt737) and yeah, personally i think that is the best option.
#7
Alright, thanks man. I guess I'll order that either when it's available or when I get around to having the money.