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#1
Over here in the UK there's been a lot of anger over TV's publication of offensive material, particularly a phonecall made by Johnathan Ross and Russell Brand to the actor Andrew Sachs (look it up).


So Pit, what duty do you think the TV channels have to censor material for offensive material, swearing and the like? Do you think that actors/performers on TV should be BANNED from swearing and being deliberately offensive?
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What's with all the threads asking us to discuss something without explicitly saying it's for an assignment today?

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#4
who's to say what's offensive? are they going to make people stop wearing leather belts because it could offend animal rights activists? well then where is the line drawn and who will draw it
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What's with all the threads asking us to discuss something without explicitly saying it's for an assignment today?



Seen as I'm at uni, this is kind of unlikely to be for an assignment.
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Seen as I'm at uni, this is kind of unlikely to be for an assignment.

Fair enough.

It's all about context, man. An F bomb in one situation is completely different from another. I mean, one second you're talking about whether to close up shop early, the next, everyone is covered in fluorine and wondering what the hell happened.

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#8
Censorship is annoying. I can't stand listening to a bunch of beeps. I especially hate when they do it with South Park and shows like that, because obviously if we're watching it, we don't care about the swearing.
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who's to say what's offensive? are they going to make people stop wearing leather belts because it could offend animal rights activists? well then where is the line drawn and who will draw it



I'm talking here about:

-swearing
- talking about sex/sexual themes
- pre-watershed violence.
#11
Its retarded i mean the kids are just going to learn it somewhere else in my state you have to have a id saying your 17 to watch rated R movies because we all know there's a huge difference in profanity between a 13 yr old and a 17 yr old. This goes for T.V also kids that shouldn't listen to profanity probably watch Disney, cartoon network, and Nickelodeon those that don't probably already know what those words mean.
#13
well swearing for swearings sake is unneeded, however if you need to express a feeling for a situation and no word accept for a cuss word can describe it then you should be allowed to use them, like most of the basic televison, except for family guy but family guy= win so they can do it
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#14
Frankly, I'm sick of all the PC crap going on in England lately, let us swear and be generally offensive.
For instance, I'm not racist at all, but the things we're now not allowed to do in case we offend someone is too much such as Christmas, and I think it should be a requirement to be able to speak fluent English before you can move to this country.
As for swearing on TV, it's not hurting anyone REALLY. Go into any high street or town centre in Britain and you'll hear people swearing, it's just real life, and people need to realise that. The watershed is there for a reason, there's no need to stop swearing.


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Fair enough.

It's all about context, man. An F bomb in one situation is completely different from another. I mean, one second you're talking about whether to close up shop early, the next, everyone is covered in fluorine and wondering what the hell happened.


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There's no such thing as bad language. I don't believe that anymore. These are the words that adults use to express rage, frustration, anger. So we don't pick up a tire iron and go beat the shit outta something.

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Frankly, I'm sick of all the PC crap going on in England lately, let us swear and be generally offensive.
For instance, I'm not racist at all, but the things we're now not allowed to do in case we offend someone is too much such as Christmas, and I think it should be a requirement to be able to speak fluent English before you can move to this country.
As for swearing on TV, it's not hurting anyone REALLY. Go into any high street or town centre in Britain and you'll hear people swearing, it's just real life, and people need to realise that. The watershed is there for a reason, there's no need to stop swearing.


Let's leave politics/PCness out of it shall we?

Seriously, I would rather listen to a well-educated person speaking Queen's English than foul-mouthed morons.

They should sack Johnathan Ross.
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I'm talking here about:

- talking about sex/sexual themes

Everything's about sex now in American TV. Is it as bad over there as it is here? I mean, having sex in the plotline is one thing, but having sex in EVERY plotline is just annoying. You can't have a romantic TV relationship without fuckin' anymore.

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Everything's about sex now in American TV. Is it as bad over there as it is here? I mean, having sex in the plotline is one thing, but having sex in EVERY plotline is just annoying. You can't have a romantic TV relationship without fuckin' anymore.



There's a difference between sex and relationships, which is something TV doesn't seem to understand. All I seem to see is people falling into bed with each other the moment they lay their hands on each other.
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There's a difference between sex and relationships, which is something TV doesn't seem to understand. All I seem to see is people falling into bed with each other the moment they lay their hands on each other.



Cause TV corporations are soulless bastards
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Which is why I watch Genesis TV (a Christian channel)
#22
I don't like censorship. If people don't like what they are watching they can easily turn the channel over.
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I don't like censorship. If people don't like what they are watching they can easily turn the channel over.



In the UK it seems ALL the channels broadcast swearing.
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In the UK it seems ALL the channels broadcast swearing.


No they don't. Not "bad" swearing anyway. I've only ever heard someone say **** in the daytime a couple of times.

The worst i've heard regularly is someone saying bitch or arse or something stupid like that.
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Which is why I watch Genesis TV (a Christian channel)



I thought you were an atheist now?

I looked up that channel and their schedule. I'll be honest with you, none of it sounds particularly interesting. Not even the Buttercream Gang.
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I thought you were an atheist now?

I looked up that channel and their schedule. I'll be honest with you, none of it sounds particularly interesting. Not even the Buttercream Gang.



Being 'atheos' doesn't mean I can't watch religious programmes.
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I thought you were an atheist now?

I looked up that channel and their schedule. I'll be honest with you, none of it sounds particularly interesting. Not even the Buttercream Gang.

What!?

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#29
I don't think anything on the television should be censored. It should be up to the networks whether they want to broadcast the material or not - and so long as they give explicit content warnings prior there's no problems. Programs can always choose not to broadcast swearing or anything deemed "offensive" but there really shouldn't be any mediation...Within reason.
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Being 'atheos' doesn't mean I can't watch religious programmes.



But surely as an atheist listening to Pastor O.E. Jackson is even less interesting as it would be if you were a Christian.
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#31
If we can see people being murdered on TV, there's no reason why people should be offended by a pair of tits or someone saying "fuck". I think a warning beforehand should be enough, so people know which shows to let their kids watch and which shows not to. If the makers of a TV show have put swearing or sex scenes in it, they've obviously decided kids and easily offended people aren't a part of their target audience.
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#32
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But surely as an atheist listening to Pastor O.E. Jackson is even less interesting as it would be if you were a Christian.



True...

Plus, who knows, I might just turn back to my faith...
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If we can see people being murdered on TV, there's no reason why people should be offended by a pair of tits or someone saying "fuck". I think a warning beforehand should be enough, so people know which shows to let their kids watch and which shows not to. If the makers of a TV show have put swearing or sex scenes in it, they've obviously decided kids and easily offended people aren't a part of their target audience.



There are warnings..
It's just the same people who ignore it are the same people who complain to TV stations...
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There are warnings..
It's just the same people who ignore it are the same people who complain to TV stations...

And people who complain about something, after ignoring a warning that it is about to happen, and being given a small device with buttons on it that allows them to stop it from happening, should not be allowed to change anything. Censoring TV because of those stupid fucks would be like making hair dryers hand-powered because some dumb shits were too retarded to admit that it's their fault for using them in the shower, and not the appliance company's fault for making electric hair dryers.
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#35
Censoring I can deal with, but most of the time the censored ads are the funniest, most imaginative ones.
#37
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Censorship also ruins good stand-up comedy.



Go and watch the classic comedians- no swearing, and funnier.
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Go and watch the classic comedians- no swearing, and funnier.



Yeah, like the Big Yin.


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