#1
I just bought the Marshall MG100DFX but I can't seem to get any good tone out of it.

I have played through other Marshall and they sound good but I can't seem to get a good tone out of this.

I have an American Fender Strat so considering that it should sound sweet and for bluesy rock n roll licks it does but I tried to play some more hard rock stuff like *groans* G n R (not a big fan) to see what sort of tone I get, and it sucks hard!

It sounds all grainy.

Any advice?
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#2
I mean i know im ignorant in saying this, but its an MG. You're probably not gonna get a good tone out of it.
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#3
you can´t get a good tone out of an MG, they suck hard...100watts of pure crap
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#4
sorry to dissapoint you man, they really do suck....I bet it sucks,buying a new amp and then realizing it's actually utter crap.
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#5
Quote by Ferrarone
you can´t get a good tone out of an MG, they suck hard...100watts of pure crap



i have 30 watts of pure crap

youd be better off buying a pedal or something
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#6
i don't mean to be elitist but maybe trade it for a tube amp? you're not gonna get sweet overdriven tube sound with the mg. or if you REALLY like it get a od pedal or something.
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#8
I wouldn't say you can't get a *good* tone out of an MG, but you sure as hell aren't going to get a great tone out of one.

Are you typically a blues player? Or more of a rock player? And are you willing to get rid of the MG and start fresh?
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#9
What you are discovering is that a budget solid state amp just isn't good enough to allow you to make the most of an awesome guitar.
I like analogue Solid State amps that make no effort to be "tube-like", and I'm proud of it...

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#10
Quote by Ferrarone
you can´t get a good tone out of an MG, they suck hard...100watts of pure crap

Actually my old MG is 100 watts of pure footrest
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#11
Prepare to endure a massive wave of flames, MG's have a horrible reputation on the UG boards.

My best advice for you is to return the amp if you still can, and buy something else. Cause the MG's..well, suck, lol

Those amps are like what, $400 new? If you can return it, you could definitely look into something like a used Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, or even a Peavey Valveking. I could go on, but you have quite a few options.
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Prepare to endure a massive wave of flames, MG's have a horrible reputation on the UG boards.

My best advice for you is to return the amp if you still can, and buy something else. Cause the MG's..well, suck, lol

Those amps are like what, $400 new? If you can return it, you could definitely look into something like a used Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, or even a Peavey Valveking. I could go on, but you have quite a few options.

...... I didn't flame him....

But like I asked earlier. Do you typically play blues?
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...... I didn't flame him....

But like I asked earlier. Do you typically play blues?
Never said you did . People just jumped all over this way faster than I did, and I'm used to seeing MG threads turn into a war zone
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Quote by FlightofIcarus
Never said you did . People just jumped all over this way faster than I did, and I'm used to seeing MG threads turn into a war zone

Too true man. UG really needs to stop HATING on the amps, and actually try to help people. I really get sick of seeing

MG suxxxxxxors!!! Nu ampz! t00b is teh only way 2 go!11

I hope the TS answers both our questions eventually
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Quote by LifesSweetDrug

I have an American Fender Strat so considering that it should sound sweet and for bluesy rock n roll licks it does but I tried to play some more hard rock stuff like *groans* G n R (not a big fan) to see what sort of tone I get, and it sucks hard!

It sounds all grainy.

Any advice?

You won't get GNR tones with single coils on any amp, IMO. Can you return the MG?
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#16
Well typically rock player, but I was playing some slide guitar and sounds pretty neat!

Why does everyone hate MG's so much? I used a 50 Watts one before and it sounded really great.

It's not that I want to emulate Slash, or anything but I haven't got that lead sort of sound.

To the guy who has an MG and overdrive pedal, which one you recommend?

But I do have the overall volume on it to less that 0.5 out of 10.
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#17
Quote by gregs1020
You won't get GNR tones with single coils on any amp, IMO. Can you return the MG?


I love my Strat much better than a Gibson, I personally think.

I could do, but I am not very keen as I got it over the net and it would cost a lot to send back.
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#18
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I think everyone should stop ripping his amp, poor thing, it's probably all scared in the corner.
On a serious note, try and return it if you can, you can get far better for your money
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I think everyone should stop ripping his amp, poor thing, it's probably all scared in the corner.
On a serious note, try and return it if you can, you can get far better for your money


Money really isn't a problem, I'll probably end up buying a more decent amp if I start gigging.
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#20
Because they're made of cheap parts, break easily, don't sound ANYTHING like a real Marshall, and you're basically paying for the little white plastic logo.

That and there are way better amps for the price. If it were me, I'd swap the MG and get a Blackheart or Blackstar, and an OD. That will give you your bedroom rock sound, and your blues overdrive. Other considerations are the Fender Champion 600, Epi Valve Junior, and Peavey Vypyr.

You could go for a Peavey Vavleking, but I personally really dislike that amp. Maybe even a Crate Palomino. Look used too... there's a Laney AOR in my GC's used section for less than the actualy price of an MG100.
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#21
seriously, just get rid of it or return it and buy a peavey classic, a laney AOR (hint hint) or a crate V33
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#22
Single coils won't give you Guns N Roses sounds. Try the clean channel, gain all the way up, roll off your tone knob. Maybe try running an overdrive in front of the amp as well.
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#23
Why'd you buy it if you can't get a good tone out of it?

#1 rule of buying amps is to go to the guitar store and try out stuff with your own guitar and make sure you like what you hear.
my MG15DFX has a button that simulates the sound of one of the expensive tube marshall amps


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#24
Here's your key to tone on this amp: (assuming you're keeping it for a while)

1. Buy a good distortion pedal, I got the EHX Metall Muff
2. Plug it in front of the amp's clean channel, obviously lol
3. Turn the gain on the channel to a bare minimum, just enough to where there is sound coming out, I'm talking like .2 out of 10 (this is the main key to getting a good tone)
4. Dial the pedal in and use the pedal's volume and amp's master to get your desired volume

I did this while I was saving up for my 6505 and it worked great. It's no pure tube tone but it a hell of a lot better than the sound you'd be getting out of it regularly.
#25
TS - I would buy Bostonrocks Laney AOR. MUCH closer to GnR tone then your current Marshall. He sells/trades things all the time and has a good rep.


The reason people get flamed is because they are making bad decisions as consumers without doing more research. I've made my mistakes too. It doesn't take long to realize that the real world experiences with this amp are below average.

TS - Nice guitar btw. I saw a guy nail Slash tones live on stage with a single coil Strat.
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TS - I would buy Bostonrocks Laney AOR. MUCH closer to GnR tone then your current Marshall. He sells/trades things all the time and has a good rep.


The reason people get flamed is because they are making bad decisions as consumers without doing more research. I've made my mistakes too. It doesn't take long to realize that the real world experiences with this amp are below average.

TS - Nice guitar btw. I saw a guy nail Slash tones live on stage with a single coil Strat.

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You CAN play anything with anything....but some guitars sound right for some things, and not for others. Single coils sound retarded for metal, though those who are apeshit about harpsichord probably beg to differ.
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Quote by LifesSweetDrug
I love my Strat much better than a Gibson, I personally think.

I could do, but I am not very keen as I got it over the net and it would cost a lot to send back.

I love strats too, single coils just don't get the tonal range of humbuckers. Which is key to the "slash" tone IMO. His solo's on the neck pup you should be able to approach though.

I honestly recommend that return the amp since money isn't an issue, a Traynor YCV50 Blue would suit what you want to play very well. HeII a Classic 30 would do well too. Both run in the $300-450 range used. What major city are you near?

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TS - Nice guitar btw. I saw a guy nail Slash tones live on stage with a single coil Strat.

o.O Had to be rails, is my bet. They can get a lot closer than stock singles in an American strat.
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#29
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Here is a demo of the MG100 HDFX take a listen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10il4UvXrzg&feature=channel_page

You might be able to dial in some kind of resonable tone. His demo does not sound too bad.


I also agree with helping people regardless of their situation. He does have a return policy I'm sure - but if he decides to keep it then there are things the TS can do. I just never really cared for any of the MG clips online nor the MGs I've played in person.

Bostonrocks has a much better tone with his Laney. In the MG100 clip up above the guy does a 'Brown' sound at 4 minutes in. Brocks VH tone clip is better as an example. How much are you selling that for again?

Gregs - Yeah, very possible on the rails, wasn't that close. I'm just saying focus on the amp for now but your right - he's got $1,500 or so in gear that may not suit for style.

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#30
LifesSweetDrug what are your EQ settings on the amp? The amp could probably sound alot better if you EQ it good and don't use too much distortion.
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#31
Yeah, MG's aren't so hot, especially the 100watters.

I have a 30 watt one, and it's got pretty decent cleans, but the OD sucks hard, but I never use my OD channel, I prefer my Distortion pedal, so I don't care too much.
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#32
Quote by zhunt1130
Here's your key to tone on this amp: (assuming you're keeping it for a while)

1. Buy a good distortion pedal, I got the EHX Metall Muff
2. Plug it in front of the amp's clean channel, obviously lol
3. Turn the gain on the channel to a bare minimum, just enough to where there is sound coming out, I'm talking like .2 out of 10 (this is the main key to getting a good tone)
4. Dial the pedal in and use the pedal's volume and amp's master to get your desired volume

I did this while I was saving up for my 6505 and it worked great. It's no pure tube tone but it a hell of a lot better than the sound you'd be getting out of it regularly.


If youre gona save up, this sounds like a solid idea
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#33
Quote by gregs1020
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o.O Had to be rails, is my bet. They can get a lot closer than stock singles in an American strat.


Rails supposably don't sound like humbuckers due to their smaller size.
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Rails supposably don't sound like humbuckers due to their smaller size.

Supposably they sound like tweeners. Not quite single coils, not quite as thick as buckers, in my experience anyway. They're closer to a humbucker tone than a regular single coil is, was my point.
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