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#1
I mean isnt 30 tube watts more than enough for gigs (because you mic them)
even if u play on a big stage, isnt 50 watts enough? Even if its not enough, couldnt you turn the mic louder ?

Ive seen tons of people on youtube with stacks, and im pretty sure not all of them play at stadiums and such places

so why do people buy stacks ??
(this is just a question, im not trying to flame peopl that do)
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#3
Lots of reasons.

1) The amp they want only comes in some sort of stack.
2) They like the bass response of a 2x12 or 4x12
3) They like the ability to switch cabinets.
4) They like transporting a head and cab separately.


Basically, there's just as many reasons to prefer a stack as there are to a having a combo. And this is coming from a combo-guy.

Oh, and I forgot to mention the fact that a lot of kids think having a stack makes your dick twice a big.
#5
Dude, I don't think you have seen how awsome a stack looks. Plus, if you are at a rehersal without PA, and your drummer is loud, I think you need a stack
#6
ive got a half stack, and i think it gets a lot fuller sound, even at lower volumes. i havent even turned it up above 2 yet

i wish i could think of some way to describe it other than "fuller"
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#7
There are reasons for both, like you said you can mic them but also, the heads can give you some nasty distortion even better than combos, for example, mesa boogies
#8
Why do people buy amps when you could just plug a multi-fx direct into the PA? It's not like they sound better or anything.

HEY, YOU. YOU THERE WITH THE AMP. YOU'RE A MORON. THAT AMP IS TOTALLY UNNECESSARY LOL!

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#10
it gives +7 coolness points and they may want different speakers.
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#11
Different tones, sometimes different wattages are only in stacks, It looks cool,
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#12
Stacks are pretty much the only way to have a closed back and a tube amp together.
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#13
Why do people just use 30 tube watts? Should people settle for something "that'll just get enough volume"?


I've seen alot of guys around here play clubs and outdoor festivals with half stacks, and also with 2X12 combos, both sounded fine by me. I play a 120watt tube combo and have so far only played in the bedroom and the occasional jam with another guitarist. I like the tone I get though. I'd get a 5150 half stack if I could, because I like the sound it.
#14
A 4x12 has a different response and sound then a 1x10.

A 100W head has a different response and sound then a 15W head (headroom, output transformers, etc.).

It's all preference.
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#16
30 watt combos are not exactly ideal for really tight metal tones at louder volumes. Plus a half-stack has way more presence on stage to the crowd. Most importantly is the option to change your sound if you want to: different cabs/speakers=different sound
#17
yeah ive got a 50W all-tube stack, the reasons have pretty much already been listed;

1) it makes me feel like i have a bigger dick
2) it has certain tonal qualities about it that you cant achieve with a combo
3) its less of a bitch to carry cos you can do it in 2 trips
4) it feels less likely to break, cos the "fragile" part is the small, easily transportable head
5) it was more economic; i got the head i really wanted and a fairly cheap combo, so if i ever feel i need to "upgrade" i can go for a much better cab
6) i just really REALLY like the way it looks.
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Well, I'm sure the same reason people buy sports cars
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#19
If you play metal you will need more than 30 watts of headroom in the power amp. 30 watts doesn't cut it for metal players in most cases.
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#20
because they're ace...
also the jcm 2000 series doesnt offer a decent combo
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#21
I never really understood why people get all up in arms over people buying half stacks.


30 watts may do it, but you don't have to settle for the bare minimum. A Chevette may get me from point A to B, but do I have to settle with just owning a Chevette?
#22
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#23
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Why do people buy amps when you could just plug a multi-fx direct into the PA? It's not like they sound better or anything.

HEY, YOU. YOU THERE WITH THE AMP. YOU'RE A MORON. THAT AMP IS TOTALLY UNNECESSARY LOL!

'Tard.



stop smoking crack! there is nothing plugged into the pa that sounds as good as a real amp. with the only exception that ive heard being the axefx unit (which you havent heard of becasue your a NOOB) and they cost mucho dinero. with your statement your basically calling everyone in every band ever wrong. no one does this (cept meshuggah maybe)
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#24
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stop smoking crack! there is nothing plugged into the pa that sounds as good as a real amp. with the only exception that ive heard being the axefx unit (which you havent heard of becasue your a NOOB) and they cost mucho dinero. with your statement your basically calling everyone in every band ever wrong. no one does this (cept meshuggah maybe)

He was being sarcastic.
#25
Sarcasm Detector= broken in hoondog's case.

I'm all about the quarter stack personally. They look sexy, have almost the same bass response as a 4x12 and you can easily switch cabs - not that I would want to, my setup is just too aesthetically pleasing. At the risk of turning into zachman, I'll show you:



Sex, at least IMO. So that's why I'm happy with a stack.
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He was being sarcastic.



^although he has also been known to smaoke crack on occasion.


more watts for more headroom?
for me because tube combos are too heavy.
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#27
Why do we have so many threads about this? Big deal, if people want stacks, let them buy stacks. Its like comparing people who drive cars to those who drive trucks.

EDIT: just because there's a combo version of an amp, doesn't mean it sounds the same as the stack version. Try a Peavey Windsor in both options.
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^although he has also been known to smaoke crack on occasion.


more watts for more headroom?
for me because tube combos are too heavy.


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#30
Quote by luyezi27
I mean isnt 30 tube watts more than enough for gigs (because you mic them)
even if u play on a big stage, isnt 50 watts enough? Even if its not enough, couldnt you turn the mic louder ?

Ive seen tons of people on youtube with stacks, and im pretty sure not all of them play at stadiums and such places

so why do people buy stacks ??
(this is just a question, im not trying to flame peopl that do)


Pretty dumb statement,

It does exist 5-3 watt half stacks, and it does exist 120w combos, for example

and alot of amps dont have a combo version of it. And if you got money you dont choose amps after wattage, you choose what you like the sound of the most..
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#31
im not taking the time to read the other posts, but here are my reasons:

1. Who honestly looks more badass at a show, the guy with the Marshall combo (lets say its tubed for the sake of this thread), or the guy with a JCL 900 with a Mesa cab?

2. You can change the cabs.

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#32
Why do people buy stacks?
Because they can.
If you start a reply with: I have never played one but I have heard good things about it! Your opinion is invalid.
#33
It all goes back to Pete Townshend.

He asked Jim Marshall to make him a huge amp (basically a rectangular 8x12). Jim said it would never work, but Pete insisted. Jim still thought the power of running all the speakers in the same cabinet would be difficult, so he basically cut it in half, giving birth to the 4x12 cab and the 4x12 slant cab.

Pete used them to crank it to hell and the stack was born.


And there you have it!
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#35
i have a 4x12 but i already regret not getting a 2x12

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#37
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It all goes back to Pete Townshend.

He asked Jim Marshall to make him a huge amp (basically a rectangular 8x12). Jim said it would never work, but Pete insisted. Jim still thought the power of running all the speakers in the same cabinet would be difficult, so he basically cut it in half, giving birth to the 4x12 cab and the 4x12 slant cab.

Pete used them to crank it to hell and the stack was born.


And there you have it!


the roadies wanted 2 412s cuz the 812 was massive


people still buy stacks over combos because the more bits it's in, the easier it is to move
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#38
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Dude, I don't think you have seen how awsome a stack looks. Plus, if you are at a rehersal without PA, and your drummer is loud, I think you need a stack



well..I have a 40 watt tube amp combo, and my drummer, who ocasionally plays metal (he beats the **** out of his drums when doing this) complains sometimes that my amp is too loud.
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#39
^This, Marshall made the 2 4x12 cabs because the 8x12 was too big to carry

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#40
A 4x12 is only 3 db louder than a combo. It's more the tone, look, feeling and portability of a stack that your buying, not a massive increase in volume.

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