#1
Ok, I have a close-minded bassist friend. He has never owned an Epiphone, and has only played one (mine) on a couple occasions. He has a crappy, beat up Gibson SG bass with horrible pickups. However, he firmly believes that all Gibsons, no matter what the quality, are better than all Epiphones . To help you understand how stubborn he is, if you got a shoebox and put on rubber-bands as strings for it and put the Gibson logo on it, he would think it's at least 3x better than every Epiphone. Don't get me wrong, I love Gibsons, but his is honestly a piece of trash. No matter how many times I try to tell him that the brand isn't as important as the quality, he will not listen to me at all. Do you agree or disagree with this?
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#2
I disagree.

The Les Paul Elitest was as good as most of the Gibson Les Pauls.

The Les Paul Standard is just about as good as a Gibson.

As for SG's, Epiphone has yet to make a high-end SG.
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#3
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No matter how many times I try to tell him that the brand isn't as important as the quality, he will not listen to me at all. Do you agree or disagree with this?

Yeah, sure seems that way to me.

But no, you're right. Call him a consumerist pig from now til forevermore.

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Even though there may be some arguments about HOW MUCH of a difference there is, any Epiphone is not as good as any Gibson. That is the point of Epiphone, to be able to get a cheaper version of a Gibson. They can be close, but never as good.

*and I speak nothing of value. Value-wise, almost every Epiphone is the better choice.
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#7
I have the Epi Black Beauty and its capable of everything i've ever asked of it. Never had a gibson though
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#9
Get a nice Epi, throw some new pups in, you have a Gibson with the wrong name written on it.
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#10
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I disagree.

The Les Paul Elitest was as good as most of the Gibson Les Pauls.

The Les Paul Standard is just about as good as a Gibson.

As for SG's, Epiphone has yet to make a high-end SG.


Yeah, Epiphone kinda has bad SG's. I traded my Epi Sg for my Les Paul that I have now .
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Agreed.
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#12
Honestly, I'd never buy a Gibson over an Epiphone. You end up paying quite bit for what? Slightly better pickups, a cleaner wiring job and the word 'Gibson' on the headstock. In my opinion, that's a waste of potential hooker and coke money.

Edit: Epiphone SGs are basically overpriced firewood. I have a one with a broken headstock that I got from a garage sale. Just holding it, it just feels shitty. It's so delicate feeling.
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#13
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Yeah, Epiphone kinda has bad SG's. I traded my Epi Sg for my Les Paul that I have now .

The G-400's aren't that bad but they still aren't the best Epiphone can make.
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#14
You guys are fucking retarded.

Other than the Elitist line, most Gibsons are much better than their Epiphone versions.
I've played so many ( I own a Gibson and an Epi have played over a countless models) that I came to this conclusion:

When it comes to guitars from those companies, they both have lemons and great guitars. It's just that Epi has more lemons than Gibson ( which has a lot) and even the so-so Gibsons play and sound as good/ better as the good Epis.

It's unjust to judge Epis as better guitars because they are made out of inferior parts/wood and most Gibsons don't come out of the factory with a decent setup. That's why many Epis play better than Gibbys in stores. A set up Gibby will always play better than it's set-up Epi countpart.

Seriously, the only time I thought Epis were better is when I got my Epi, at the age of 13.
This whole "Epiphone is better trend" was started by Epiphone fanboys who couldn't shell out more money for a Gibson. Seriously, I witnessed it happen ( it wasn't on UG)
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#15
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You guys are fucking retarded.

Other than the Elitist line, most Gibsons are much better than their Epiphone versions.
I've played so many ( I own a Gibson and an Epi have played over a countless models) that I came to this conclusion:

When it comes to guitars from those companies, they both have lemons and great guitars. It's just that Epi has more lemons than Gibson ( which has a lot) and even the so-so Gibsons play and sound as good/ better as the good Epis.

It's unjust to judge Epis as better guitars because they are made out of inferior parts and most Gibsons don't come out of the factory with a decent setup). That's why many Epis play better than Gibbys in stores; the Gibbys were probably set up badly.

Seriously, the only time I thought Epis were better is when I got my Epi, at the age of 13.
This whole "Epiphone is better trend" was started by Epiphone fanboys who couldn't shell out more money for a Gibson. Seriously, I witnessed it happen ( it wasn't on UG)


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#16
I don't care what the brand is so long as I like that particular guitar. Of all the guitars I tried out, the Gibson I play suited me better. I liked it better than the other Gibsons, and I liked it better than the Epiphones, so I bought it.
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I don't care what the brand is so long as I like that particular guitar. Of all the guitars I tried out, the Gibson I play suited me better. I liked it better than the other Gibsons, and I liked it better than the Epiphones, so I bought it.


Exactly. My ES-339 played and sounded better than the Epi sheratons, Casinos and Gibson 335's. That's why I bought it. But, my friend's PRS SE standard played and sounded better than the custom 22/24s I played ( but the customs looked nicer).

It's about taste, I guess.
#18
Pfft, pull a jonas brothers, black out the name on the headstock, just say its a gibson. 1500 (at most for a reasonable epiphone)+13 (for black/whatever paint)= "Gibzon" The Z was intentional.
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#19
I tried a Casino, a Custom (Epi), and a Melody Maker (Gibson) in one sitting at a store once. The Casino and the Custom won hands down, though I thought the Melody Maker was neat.
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I tried a Casino, a Custom (Epi), and a Melody Maker (Gibson) in one sitting at a store once. The Casino and the Custom won hands down, though I thought the Melody Maker was neat.

That's cause it's a Melody Maker. Besides that, I've never been to a guitar store that had a properly set up Gibson. That could be why I disliked all the ones I played until I tried a used one.
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Exactly. My ES-339 played and sounded better than the Epi sheratons, Casinos and Gibson 335's. That's why I bought it. But, my friend's PRS SE standard played and sounded better than the custom 22/24s I played ( but the customs looked nicer).

It's about taste, I guess.

I want an ES-339. I really do need a hollow body.. To be fair though, that probably would just be brand loyalty, though. Because of all the hollow bodies I tried, the best was this Gretsch, and I think I'm going to buy it one of these days.
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#21
Call me crazy, but 2 of my friends have Gibsons, one has a standard SG and the other an LP studio, and I still prefer the feel of my Epi G-400 compared to them.
#22
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As for SG's, Epiphone has yet to make a high-end SG.


Umm, I have a mate that bought an Epi SG Angus Young signature model (They are fairly rare this particular model, limited to 300 units or something like that) anyway it cost him $1900Aus but I played it one night (I had a crappy $300 SG knock-off at the time) & I think it is still the second best guitar I have ever played (the best being another mates 1983 model Gibby Les Paul) but yeah this Epi kicked-arse even over the proper gibby SG's I have played!
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Umm, I have a mate that bought an Epi SG Angus Young signature model (They are fairly rare this particular model, limited to 300 units or something like that) anyway it cost him $1900Aus but I played it one night (I had a crappy $300 SG knock-off at the time) & I think it is still the second best guitar I have ever played (the best being another mates 1983 model Gibby Les Paul) but yeah this Epi kicked-arse even over the proper gibby SG's I have played!

But does it have Star Wars stickers on it? I think not.
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But does it have Star Wars stickers on it? I think not.



Oh, but it does!


Just kidding! But I haven't seen it in over 12months so I wouldn't doupt it!
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