#1
Long story short... 5 year olds and guitars don't mix On the up side I get a new guitar! Wooo!

So without further adieu I need some opinions... I play mostly blues/rock/alternative, which guitar is the better buy...



http://www.guitarcenter.com/Paul-Reed-Smith-SE-Single-Cut-Electric-Guitar-104225081-i1150579.gc
Paul Reed Smith SE Single Cut Electric Guitar
$521.13 - $599.99
* Flamed maple top
* Mahogany back
* Mahogany neck
* Rosewood fretboard
* PRS-designed humbuckers
* Wide, fat neck carve



http://www.guitarcenter.com/Michael-Kelly-Patriot-Custom-Electric-Guitar-512296-i1147703.gc
Michael Kelly Patriot Custom Electric Guitar
$529.99

* Body: solid mahogany with carved flame maple top
* Neck: set mahogany
* Fingerboard: ebony
* Frets: 22 medium jumbo
* Scale length: 24-3/4"
* Binding: 5-ply white and black plastic
* Inlay: abalone block
* Bridge: TonePros fully adjustable
* Tuning machines: Grover
* Pickups: Riboloff / Rockfield SWC-1 (select wound custom), direct mounted dual PAF plus
* Controls: 1 volume, 1 tone, coil-splitting
* Strings: D'Addario
* Hardware: chrome



http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/ESP-LTD-Deluxe-EC1000-Electric-Guitar?sku=516629
ESP LTD Deluxe EC-1000 Electric Guitar
$909.00 - $979.00

* Genuine EMG 81/60 pickups (Seymour Duncan JB/59s on amber sunburst model)
* 24-3/4" set neck
* Mahogany neck
* Rosewood fretboard (ebony on vintage black)
* Abalone flags plus the model name at the 12th fret
* 24 extra jumbo frets
* TonePros locking bridge
* Black hardware (gold on black and vintage black, chrome on amber sunburst)



http://www.guitarcenter.com/Epiphone-Les-Paul-Ultra-II-Electric-Guitar-515624-i1383596.gc
Epiphone Les Paul Ultra-II Electric Guitar
$799.99

# Body: Mahogany, strategically chambered
# Top: Quilted maple
# Neck: Mahogany
# Neck Profile: SlimTaper, satin finish
# Neck Joint: Glued-In
# Truss Rod: double-action, 2-way
# Fingerboard: Rosewood
# Fingerboard Radius: 12"
# Frets: 22 medium jumbo
# Scale Length: 24-3/4"
# Nut Width: 1.65"
# Neck Pickup: Alnico Classic
# NanoMag Low-impedance
# Bridge Pickup: Alnico Classic Plus
# Bridge: LockTone Tune-O-Matic
# Tailpiece: LockTone Stopbar
# Front Controls: Neck Humbucker Master Volume
# Bridge Humbucker Master Volume
# Master Tone
# NanoMAG Master Volume
# 3-way Toggle (Humbuckers)
# Rear Controls:
# NanoMAG Treble
# NanoMAG Bass
# NanoMAG Gain
# Tuners: Grover, diecast
# Outputs: 1/4" Mono, 1/4" Stereo
# Power: 9V battery
# Hardware: Gold
# Binding: Body, Neck
Last edited by thfc1799 at Jan 28, 2009,
#3
Minus the abalone, the ESP rocks
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#4
I like the ESP but those pickups are gonna be mostly for metal Im not sure if you play metal or not it wasnt stated in the OP
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#6
I like the ESP a lot, but I don't know if that would suit you that well if you're playing blues and stuff. Maybe the Michael Kelly? It sounds a lot better spec-wise than the PRS.
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#7
The ESP might feel too metal for him. Active EMGS will definitely give it some scream.
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#10
Jesus... You lot are far too fast... I finally got all the pictures sorted out only to realize that there's 200 replies. I don't play any metal at all. I'm always open to new ideas also.

P.s. I really don't want to spend more than a grand.

Thanks again!
Last edited by thfc1799 at Jan 28, 2009,
#11
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Jesus... You lot are far too fast... I finally got all the pictures sorted out only to realize that there's 200 replies. I don't play any metal at all. I'm always open to knew ideas also.

P.s. I really don't want to spend more than a grand.

Thanks again!


Well active pickups are meant for high gain music, so that rules out the LTD unless you get the model with the SD JB/59 combo, which are great pickups.
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#12
Get the ESP in the amber sunburst model with the Duncans.
A friend of mine owns one and its amazing.

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#13
Quote by Reds3031
Well active pickups are meant for high gain music, so that rules out the LTD unless you get the model with the SD JB/59 combo, which are great pickups.


Yea, the sunburst comes with the JB/59 combo... Perhaps I would have created a better thread by comparing the ESP LTD Deluxe EC-1000 (JB/59 setup) to the Epi Les paul Ultra II
#14
Quote by OceanofNoise
Get the ESP in the amber sunburst model with the Duncans.
A friend of mine owns one and its amazing.


Have you played it?
#15
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Well it's a $900 against 2 $500 guitars....


Ya, I think TS made a mistake in the OP.
#16
Ok... additional guitar added... need opinions again lol... sorry guys.
#17
Personally I'd get the ESP; The Epi is just ugly IMO(quilt cherry + gold hardware = eww IMO) and I wouldn't be caught dead with it, the Michael Kelly doesn't look that good durability-wise to me, and I can think of very little wrong with the PRS, but come on, Seymour Duncan JB/59 set and 24 frets? Beauty. True beauty.
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#18
well seeing as all of those are Les Paul models, i would say get the Epi or the Michael Kelly. also on Musicians Friend you can get a Gibson Les Paul Studio for $1000, if you are willing to spend 1 grand, i would go for the Studio.
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#19
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Personally I'd get the ESP; The Epi is just ugly IMO(quilt cherry + gold hardware = eww IMO) and I wouldn't be caught dead with it, the Michael Kelly doesn't look that good durability-wise to me, and I can think of very little wrong with the PRS, but come on, Seymour Duncan JB/59 set and 24 frets? Beauty. True beauty.


Agreed.

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well seeing as all of those are Les Paul models, i would say get the Epi or the Michael Kelly. also on Musicians Friend you can get a Gibson Les Paul Studio for $1000, if you are willing to spend 1 grand, i would go for the Studio.


Respectfully disagrees - High end LTDs are better than low end Gibsons IMO.

Also, I think the pickups on the LTD would be better than the stock Epiphones.

TS - what happened to your old guitar?
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Last edited by Reds3031 at Jan 29, 2009,
#20
For the Price I'd get the Michael Kelly. But regardless of price, LTD.

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#21
Alright now I say defitley ESP those pickups should suit your needs alot better than the EMG Eclipse you had in there before.
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#23
The LTD with the duncans ftw

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#24
Quote by Reds3031


TS - what happened to your old guitar?


My sister was over my house the other day and she brought my nephew (her son) with her. While we were in the kitchen he went and found my guitar and started trying to play it, ended up dropping it, and destroyed the neck/head

I couldn't be mad though cause he's pretty awesome. I know I could get it fixed, but I'm using this opportunity as an excuse to get a new guitar

I think I might pick him up one of those cheap starter guitars too. lol.
#25
I'd get the Michael Kelly. Not overpriced like the ESP and Epi and a great playing and really nice looking guitar.
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#26
Those who suggested the Michael Kelly... can you give me reasons why?
#27
I have a PRS SE Singlecut, it is a nice guitar and feels well made. You can play pretty much anything you like on it. I have played rock, metal and some more jangly stuff as well. I find it sounds good. When playing you just get on with it and don't give the guitar a second thought. Find one in a shop and give it a go.

I have not played the other guitars you list so can't compare.
#28
i would go for the patriot custom... but that's what i like

what about the necks, have you played them, cause they are really different in each one

Edit: I SAY, POLL!!!
Last edited by deluxity at Jan 29, 2009,
#29
Quote by deluxity
i would go for the patriot custom... but that's what i like

what about the necks, have you played them, cause they are really different in each one

Edit: I SAY, POLL!!!


Unfortunately I don't think I can add a poll once the thread has started, I believe you have to do it at the start. I could be wrong though?
#30
Never played the patriot custom because they are tough to find in the wild. But as far as the components and build quality for the price it beats the others. The Rockfield Pups in it are great. And it's a very very sexy guitar.

I'm planning on trying one this summer and picking one up if I like it.

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#31
Quote by Necrophagist777
Never played the patriot custom because they are tough to find in the wild. But as far as the components and build quality for the price it beats the others. The Rockfield Pups in it are great. And it's a very very sexy guitar.

I'm planning on trying one this summer and picking one up if I like it.



I hear that they're pretty heavy though? anyone?
#32
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I hear that they're pretty heavy though? anyone?


meh, I don't think they would be any heavier than any other Mahogany LP.

I'm a little biased since I love heavy guitars, my Hellraiser Avenger is sooo heavy. Heavier than any LP i've played.

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#33
I'd go for the Kelley if only for the ebony fingerboard. That'll play better than any rosewood one. The price is good but I'd really like to hear it and compare. Then again at the price you can so easily swap the pups to get the sound you prefer. Isn't it weird how different some LP types can be?
#34
If you like the Les Paul style, i would also recommend checking out a Tradition S-20... Very Nice for the price.
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#35
Definitely go PRS, I love those things.
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#36
PRS is the best option, I think.
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