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For a project for school i have to talk to someone that is pro-choice and hear why, and then make a rebuttle. And I have to have the discussion typed out, so I thought Id look here. Anyone up for helping me with this? Please PM.
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#4
Holy shit you guys are retarded. Honestly makes me wonder how many people are too stupid to put in half a minutes effort to look at a controversial topic from one perspective and write about it. I'm not helping you, I hope you get impaled by a mallot.
#6
Wouldn't you need to hear their argument before you rebuttal?
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#7
reply tht the most decisive point that a fetus becomes a human is conception-if its a human its murder-its that simple
#8
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Wouldn't you need to hear their argument before you rebuttal?


Not if he's a crazy fundamentalist.
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#10
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For a project for school i have to talk to someone that is pro-choice and hear why, and then make a rebuttle. And I have to have the discussion typed out, so I thought Id look here. Anyone up for helping me with this? Please PM.

So your school requires you to be prescient? Damn tough school.
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#11
i'm pro life, why? because nobody, NOBODY deserves to die unjustly, and "fetus" means "little one" so just because someone is little does not make it as bad to kill them

someday the world will realize the horror that abortion is, we just havn't reached that day yet, but it will happen someday
#12
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i'm pro life, why? because nobody, NOBODY deserves to die unjustly, and "fetus" means "little one" so just because someone is little does not make it as bad to kill them

someday the world will realize the horror that abortion is, we just havn't reached that day yet, but it will happen someday


Hush up, mother theresa.
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#14
I personally think that the girl has the RIGHT to choose whether she wants to RUIN her life with a baby...
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#15
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There isn't really a good counter-argument, so just throw a bible at them.


That just proves that it's not okay to kill babies, but anyone else is game
#17
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i'm pro life, why? because nobody, NOBODY deserves to die unjustly, and "fetus" means "little one" so just because someone is little does not make it as bad to kill them

someday the world will realize the horror that abortion is, we just havn't reached that day yet, but it will happen someday


k coo'.
#18
-Humanization is the process in which a life form will gradually acquire human specific biological/sociological/etc characteristics to fit a marginal average human model.

-All forms of life undergoing the process of humanization should above all else have the right to life which leeway can only be granted through informed consent.

-Embryonic cells, fetuses, etc undergo the process of humanization and cannot consensually give leeway to their right to life.

-Abortion should be banned because it practices the infringement of the fetus'/etc's right to life without it's consent.
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-Humanization is the process in which a life form will gradually acquire human specific biological/sociological/etc characteristics to fit a marginal average human model.

-All forms of life undergoing the process of humanization should above all else have the right to life which leeway can only be granted through informed consent.

-Embryonic cells, fetuses, etc undergo the process of humanization and cannot consensually give leeway to their right to life.

-Abortion should be banned because it practices the infringement of the fetus'/etc's right to life without it's consent.


Okay, then the fetus is a minor, and they got the parent's consent, didn't they?
#23
Are you really against abortions or do you just have to make an argument like you are?
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Okay, then the fetus is a minor, and they got the parent's consent, didn't they?


Parents should be able to give their consent to leeway their own right to life in order to save the child but not give consent for the child, no one should be able to give consent for anyone else other than themselves.
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Parents should be able to give their consent to leeway their own right to life in order to save the child but not give consent for the child, no one should be able to give consent for anyone else other than themselves.


I hope you see the paradox...
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#26
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Parents should be able to give their consent to leeway their own right to life in order to save the child but not give consent for the child, no one should be able to give consent for anyone else other than themselves.


Does the morality of 'killing' lie within sentience or the attributes of life?

EDIT: OR of highest importance to most: sapience.
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#27
I'm all for abortion, it's just not right bringing a baby into this world when it can't be properly cared for and such. It's just women making decisions that bothers me.
#28
Abortion is awesome,
I'l have no kids.
Have sex all day bareback,
And run no risks.
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#29
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Parents should be able to give their consent to leeway their own right to life in order to save the child but not give consent for the child, no one should be able to give consent for anyone else other than themselves.


A fetus can't really speak for itself, it is still part of the woman carrying it. She can do what she wants with it. I don't know why thats hard to grasp.
#30
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I hope you see the paradox...


no I don't...

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Does the morality of 'killing' lie within sentience or the attributes of life?


My morallity on killing stems from my support of negative liberty.

Anyways I didn't come here to debate the topic, I gave the TS exactly what he asked for.

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A fetus can't really speak for itself,


which is why abortion should be banned

it is still part of the woman carrying it. She can do what she wants with it. I don't know why thats hard to grasp.


It has it's own seperate life, you were once a fetus too. I don't know why that's hard to grasp.
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#31
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no I don't...


Women not being able to do what they want with their bodies...
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#32
I'm pro-choice
I don't think anyone has the right to enforce their beliefs on anyone else, and the only reason it's still illegal in some places is a hangover from a non-secular government.
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#33
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Hush up, mother theresa.

He's right though, I wouldn't want to be ripped to shreds upon meeting the world.
#34
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Women not being able to do what they want with their bodies...


I view the fetus, hell even the first few cells, as a seperate body.

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I'm pro-choice
I don't think anyone has the right to enforce their beliefs on anyone else, and the only reason it's still illegal in some places is a hangover from a non-secular government.


lol
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#35
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I view the fetus, hell even the first few cells, as a seperate body.


Is your liver a separate body too? ****, dont drink people. You're harming your liver!!

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He's right though, I wouldn't want to be ripped to shreds upon meeting the world.


Er... what?
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#36
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He's right though, I wouldn't want to be ripped to shreds upon meeting the world.



you seriously think a fetus is "ripped to shreds"?
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#37
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My morallity on killing stems from my support of negative liberty.


Which stems to the liberty of people. And people stems towards the attribute of sapience. No?

And it's tough to argue the rights of negative liberty when the symbiotic relationship is, in a sense, parasitic.
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#38
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you seriously think a fetus is "ripped to shreds"?

Man, it was an exaggeration. Don't fret.
#39
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I view the fetus, hell even the first few cells, as a seperate body.


lol



what the **** is your point, I'm not enforcing my beliefs on anyone, the only peope who are trying to enforce beliefs are ****ing pro-lifers
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#40
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Is your liver a separate body too? ****, dont drink people. You're harming your liver!!


A fetus isn't a usual part of your anatomy...

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what the **** is your point, I'm not enforcing my beliefs on anyone, the only peope who are trying to enforce beliefs are ****ing pro-lifers


You're enforcing your belief that fetuses don't have a right to life.

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Which stems to the liberty of people. And people stems towards the attribute of sapience. No?

And it's tough to argue the rights of negative liberty when the symbiotic relationship is, in a sense, parasitic.


Hence the priority to the right of life as stated in my first post.
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