#1
Hey all

stuck between the two of these to buy, any good or bad points on both??

http://www.thomann.de/ie/esp_ltd_ax_2e.htm

http://www.thomann.de/ie/bc_rich_ironbird_ltd.htm
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#3
yeah i know the shapes are not to everyones taste, but with regards to sound, playability (neck issues etc) which would be a better buy?
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Soon to be customised Jackson Soloist copy
Roland Micro Cube
Roland Cube 60 (LOUD!!)
Zoom 505II effects pedal
#4
ESP. far better spec all round and you can add a FR later if you really need to. Neck thru and Ebony fretboard will feel so much better than bolts and rosewood. Mind you, Ebony topped body could be a tad heavy I suppose.
#5
ok cool thanks! ill consider it! whereabouts in tipp are you btw??
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Jackson JS30RR Rhoads flying v
Richwood semi-acoustic
Soon to be customised Jackson Soloist copy
Roland Micro Cube
Roland Cube 60 (LOUD!!)
Zoom 505II effects pedal
#6
The esp would be better, my friend has an ironbird. And it tips to the headstock end, its really annoying and uncomfortable
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Last edited by superkal1 at Jan 31, 2009,
#7
Go for the ESP, it has a fixed bridge and a proper wood body.

Also, a coil-tap meaning you will get nice clean tones. Trust me the feature is great.
#9
Quote by Horlicks
Neither. You can get way better in the price range.


Examples needed.
#10
Quote by Jackolas
Examples needed.

Washburn X50 Pro. £200 cheaper than the ESP and Duncan pickups. Looks far prettier too.
#11
Quote by Horlicks
Washburn X50 Pro. £200 cheaper than the ESP and Duncan pickups. Looks far prettier too.



saw that one coming the moment HE posted in this topic
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#12
Quote by Slicer666
saw that one coming the moment HE posted in this topic

It's not my fault it's one of the only UK guitars that's actually good value.
#13
Quote by Horlicks
Washburn X50 Pro. £200 cheaper than the ESP and Duncan pickups. Looks far prettier too.


Thing is they are moslty £400 now. I wish they weren't marketed towards metalcore, ALL the videos of the guitar on youtube sound like ass, apart from like 3.

Shame because the Washburn X50 Pro is nice.
#15
Quote by Jackolas
Thing is they are moslty £400 now. I wish they weren't marketed towards metalcore, ALL the videos of the guitar on youtube sound like ass, apart from like 3.

Shame because the Washburn X50 Pro is nice.

http://www.richtonemusic.co.uk/guitars-1/electric-guitars-2/washburn-x50pro-electric-guitar-60.html
Only the EMG version is £400. Methinks you need to look harder.

About the metalcore thing, what? I use mine for blues all the time. Since when is a '59/Custom Custom a metal set-up?
Last edited by Horlicks at Jan 31, 2009,
#16
Quote by Horlicks
http://www.richtonemusic.co.uk/guitars-1/electric-guitars-2/washburn-x50pro-electric-guitar-60.html
Only the EMG version is £400. Methinks you need to look harder.


That is a good price, BUT - most places including shops now sell it for £400. SUX!

Man I wish I could look of that guitar and not think of metalcore duuh duh dum music.

Quote by Horlicks
http://www.richtonemusic.co.uk/guitars-1/electric-guitars-2/washburn-x50pro-electric-guitar-60.html
Only the EMG version is £400. Methinks you need to look harder.

About the metalcore thing, what? I use mine for blues all the time. Since when is a '59/Custom Custom a metal set-up?


Lots of the metalcore kids use them, and I mean loads.

Who cares anyway, it's nice as I said.. I was going to get one, but decided against it.
#17
Quote by Jackolas
That is a good price, BUT - most places including shops now sell it for £400. SUX!

So don't buy it from those shops?
#18
Quote by Horlicks
So don't buy it from those shops?


I like my guitars to have a set up from this guy, so I would probably buy it through a shop if I had the choice. I only buy online if it is a rare or harder to get guitar not available on the shop floor. All guitars need a quality set up.

*most* places seem to be now selling it for £400, so it's gone from being good value, to still good value, but.. more expensive.
#19
ok so ill probably go for it so thanks all! continue the argument haha
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Jackson JS30RR Rhoads flying v
Richwood semi-acoustic
Soon to be customised Jackson Soloist copy
Roland Micro Cube
Roland Cube 60 (LOUD!!)
Zoom 505II effects pedal
#21
is it through neck though?
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Jackson JS30RR Rhoads flying v
Richwood semi-acoustic
Soon to be customised Jackson Soloist copy
Roland Micro Cube
Roland Cube 60 (LOUD!!)
Zoom 505II effects pedal