#1
I'm looking for guitar head for metal with the following features:
- hybrid construction
- 2 or more preamp tubes
- high gain channel
- output of 200-450 watts into 8 ohms
- noise-gate
- graphic or parametric eq plus the standard eq
- dsp section (at least with delay)
- built in tuner
- footswitch
- fx loop with master volume

I'm pretty sure that amp with these features doesn't exist, but if you find one let me know cause I've searched everywhere.
#3
All those requirements and you didn't say how much you're willing to spend...
#5
Quote by Stig Karpelan
I'm looking for guitar head for metal with the following features:
- hybrid construction
- 2 or more preamp tubes
- high gain channel
- output of 200-450 watts into 8 ohms
- noise-gate
- graphic or parametric eq plus the standard eq
- dsp section (at least with delay)
- built in tuner
- footswitch
- fx loop with master volume

I'm pretty sure that amp with these features doesn't exist, but if you find one let me know cause I've searched everywhere.

Why would you want that?
It's like a louder Spider 3 with more useless features.

I'd recommend the Kerry King JCM800 model, and buy some high quality pedals to do the rest.
#6
Well, I'm currently playing with such setup with pedals, I was thinking to make it more compact and have everything in one piece. And I'm not looking for a modeling amp. About the cost of the amp, doesn't matter at the moment, first I would like to at least find one. Or someone who's building custom amps.
#7
Quote by Stig Karpelan
I'm looking for guitar head for metal with the following features:
- hybrid construction -Why?
- 2 or more preamp tubes
- high gain channel
- output of 200-450 watts -Why? into 8 ohms
- noise-gate -Better to get a rackmount one
- graphic or parametric eq plus the standard eq -Better to get a rackmount one
- dsp section (at least with delay) -Better to get a rackmount one
- built in tuner -Better to get a rackmount one
- footswitch
- fx loop with master volume

It would probably be best for you to buy a rack amp, maybe even with a midi footswitch if you can afford it.
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#8
agreed - why the hell would you specifically WANT a hybrid amp? And why would you ever need 200 watts? As far as crap like noise gates and effects goes that kind of stuff is often there at the expense of either quality of tone or quality of components/construction. Nobody in their right mind would allow fluff and gubbins to influence their choice of amp.

Think about it....the paper specs mean bollock all as long as the amp is loud enough to gig with and gives you the tone you're looking for, n'est-ce pas?
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#10
Now, 100 watts is a reasonable need, but trust me when I say no one will ever need more than 150 watts...

And yes, I'm pretty sure the amp you listed doesn't exist.
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#11
well if you want 60w/120w a vypyr tube head, it has it all (i think)
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#12
I would use it for other purposes than just for playing guitar, therefore some of the specs. I checked out the marshall kerry head, but it's not what I'm looking for. I'm open for suggestions for a rack preamp with these features. I might go with a separate pre and power amps. Again the point is not to have rackfull of units or floorfull of pedals. And of course I would listen to the amp before buying it, it doesn't mean that if I find one I will automatically buy it...but then again I first need to find one to hear it. So throw in some names of the amps that might fit the specs and I'll check them out.
#13
Quote by Stig Karpelan
I'm looking for guitar head for metal with the following features:
- hybrid construction
- 2 or more preamp tubes
- high gain channel
- output of 200-450 watts into 8 ohms
- noise-gate
- graphic or parametric eq plus the standard eq
- dsp section (at least with delay)
- built in tuner
- footswitch
- fx loop with master volume

I'm pretty sure that amp with these features doesn't exist, but if you find one let me know cause I've searched everywhere.


Well first off some of these features are useless. built in tuner? Built in tuners usually come on solid state amps and they aren't worth a **** anyway.

Noise gates on amps are never as good as the real thing. They usually never kill feedback maybe a little amp hum. useless. 200 watts?

Why don't you just get a 100 watt tube amp that's going to be louder than a 400 watt solid state amp. Or to our human ears it is anyway if we get technical it isn't. Sorry just saving that from the forum nerds to jump on.

You want a high gain amp get the real damn thing. Not one of these hybrid amps that try to model it. Get a peavey 6505+. Get a freaking tuner pedal or rack tuner on top of your amp. Get a boss ns-2 noise gate. Have some real tone and the features.
#14
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#15
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you're silly


Was that towards me? Because I don't see how I am silly.

The guy wants an amp with a tuner and a noise gate. We all know the tuners on amps suck. We all know the noise gates on amps barely do anything. They do not kill feedback when using a lot of gain. It isn't going to hurt this guy to have a noise gate hooked up. You never have to turn it off so it's not something he has to step on. He can keep it on and on top of the amp. The rack tuner can go on top of the amp too.

He doesn't want to step on **** and he doesn't have to.
#16
looks like someone needs to go rack. im not suggesting anything till we have your budget though... rack setups arent as messy as people think, all you need is a rack preamp, poweramp, tuner, noisegate, and a tc electronics g-major for effects, then just ONE floorboard. idk if you can afford this, cause you havent said anything, but there wouldnt be any reason to have a bunch of pedals lying around if you have a rack setup. also, do you already have a cabinet?
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#17
Quote by Stig Karpelan
I would use it for other purposes than just for playing guitar, therefore some of the specs. I checked out the marshall kerry head, but it's not what I'm looking for. I'm open for suggestions for a rack preamp with these features. I might go with a separate pre and power amps. Again the point is not to have rackfull of units or floorfull of pedals. And of course I would listen to the amp before buying it, it doesn't mean that if I find one I will automatically buy it...but then again I first need to find one to hear it. So throw in some names of the amps that might fit the specs and I'll check them out.

Get a rackmount tube pre-amp (of your choice/budget), a studio Multi-FX unit (of your choice/budget), a Samson D-3500 Para EQ, a rackmount tuner, a MIDI pedal board and a stereo power amp (again, of your choice/budget).

It will cost you quite a lot, but you will be able to use it for many, many applications.
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#18
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Was that towards me? Because I don't see how I am silly.

The guy wants an amp with a tuner and a noise gate. We all know the tuners on amps suck. We all know the noise gates on amps barely do anything. They do not kill feedback when using a lot of gain. It isn't going to hurt this guy to have a noise gate hooked up. You never have to turn it off so it's not something he has to step on. He can keep it on and on top of the amp. The rack tuner can go on top of the amp too.

He doesn't want to step on **** and he doesn't have to.


No he meant to the TS.

And yes TS, you are silly. Thats a ridiculous request.

- hybrid construction Why would you want hybrid rather then tube?
- 2 or more preamp tubes
- high gain channel
- output of 200-450 watts into 8 ohms What? No.
- noise-gate As said before, built in Noise-Gates are terrible. Just get a stomp box/rackmount
- graphic or parametric eq plus the standard eq get a rackmount / stompbox for this]
- dsp section (at least with delay) see above ^
- built in tuner see above ^
- footswitch
- fx loop with master volume


If you'll give us a budget for the amp and a budget for a rack/stompboxes it would really help us.
#19
There's a good reason that an amp with those specs doesn't exist..
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#20
Ok, this far I've checked out (not tested live but the specs) those major amp makers such as Engl, Mesa, Randall and they do have preamps yes, but not with those specs. Because they can make heads with such specs I guess they can also make rack preamps too.

So if you happen to find out a device that has those specs (power section excluded), send me a link? Note: Do not read this question as: Do you think noisegates or tuners are useless when they're built into the amp, Do you think tube is better than solidstate, Do you think fender is better than gibson. If I want to buy a van I won't go browsing through formula ones just because they are faster and everything...you'll get the point I hope.

I'm thinking about 2500 dollars for the budget, I think it's a bit ridiculous to pay more than that for an amp.
#21
Quote by Stig Karpelan
I would use it for other purposes than just for playing guitar, therefore some of the specs. I checked out the marshall kerry head, but it's not what I'm looking for. I'm open for suggestions for a rack preamp with these features. I might go with a separate pre and power amps. Again the point is not to have rackfull of units or floorfull of pedals. And of course I would listen to the amp before buying it, it doesn't mean that if I find one I will automatically buy it...but then again I first need to find one to hear it. So throw in some names of the amps that might fit the specs and I'll check them out.

No, you wouldn't - amps that are great for guitars are no good at other stuff, likewise amps that are great for other stuff make cruddy guitar amps.
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#22
periphery/bulb!

gear:
Ibanez RG7321 w/ D-sonic in bridge

Peavey 5150 mk ii & b52 4x12 cab

line 6 podxt for recording

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Head and Cab for $130? You don't need a head and cabinet, you need a psychological examination.
#24
Try the AxeFX and a cheap-ish power amp, that will cost about $2000, then you have $500 left over for a cab.
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Orange Tiny Terror >
LzR Engineering 212 cab

My other amp can run Crysis
#25
200-450 watts? WTF? That is very sill indeed

And nutinpwngibsons suggestions i think are pretty good for u silly TS
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#26
well. actually i forgot to put in the modules for the randall, and if i did, it would be over budget. so forget my suggestions.
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Peavey 5150 mk ii & b52 4x12 cab

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Head and Cab for $130? You don't need a head and cabinet, you need a psychological examination.
#28
Ok, 2 options from my POV.

A) If you want a hybrid, or a solid state head and you're looking to play metal, then I would look at the Randall V or T series. I like these amps. The V series of them has everything you asked for with the exception of a tuner, dsp (which is **** in most amps anyway), and a built in noise gate. But, a Boss NS2 is only 80 bucks or so, and probably of better quality than a built in gate anyway.
link:http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Randall-V2-Guitar-Amp-Head?sku=480329

B) Try to find a rackmount Digital Preamp (plenty out there), and then a power amp to your liking. With a digital preamp, you could also looking into a PA power amp, and not just one made for guitars, as a digital pre doesn't rely as much on the shaping and coloring of a poweramp as a tube pre would. I am actually using a setup like this right now and it's working out great for me. I found a used digital pre- and I am using it with a Mackie 800 watt power amp. Sounds great. No tuner on the model I have, but basically everything else covered.

Those are two options I can think of. Good luck!
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#29
line 6 vetta II? that's the only amp i can think of that even has some of those features, but he said he doesn't want a modeling amp...
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#30
For your needs/wants I recommend a Rocktron Prophecy preamp and a tube poweramp from either Marshall, Carvin or Peavey.
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#33
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400 watts?
Are you just a child?

You're gonna need something more like 1200 Watts at least.


But preferably like 1600 watts to get that full hybrid crunch.
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#34
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But preferably like 1600 watts to get that full hybrid crunch.


1600 are you a baby, its 2000 or nothing, i love to hear the sound of fail when i crank my amp
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#35
I'm looking for guitar head for metal with the following features:
- hybrid construction- why?
- 2 or more preamp tubes-
- high gain channel- example of sound wanted?
- output of 200-450 watts into 8 ohms- tottaly un-necessary,
- noise-gate-pedal
- graphic or parametric eq plus the standard eq-pedal
- dsp section (at least with delay)-pedal
- built in tuner-pedal
- footswitch
- fx loop with master volume

so yeah, half the stuff you want is pointless / wrong,

look at peavey/engl, or if ur on a tight budget, randall. and get some pedals,

and used is allways a better option for amps imo