#1
I love my x100b but it doesn't have the distortion for metal. I have thought about getting a boss os-2 because it has OD and distortion. So my questions are; do I even need an OD? Should I buy OD and distortion pedals seperately? what would you recommend (~100USD)? ability to get an EVH sound would would be nice as well.
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#2
get a Line 6 Uber Metal distortion pedal, itll solve ur problems
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#3
For metal an OD probably isn't what you are looking for. I suggest a metal muff or if you are on a budget, the Boss metalzone. If your really limited, the OS-2 is a decent deal, not to mention the megadistortion, but that tends to be a tad noisy.
#4
Try the metalzone by boss. Not only is it a good metal pedal, but it cuts out all of that fuzz that gives a ****ty tone to your setup.
#5
Well it depends if you are really looking for a metal sound or an EVH sound. Although EVH is considered a metal guitarist, I find his style and sound more rock/blue'ish. I use a Line 6 Uber Metal distortion pedal and I love it. Tones of options for tones. I've also used some Digitech and Boss metal-oriented pedals and liked them, but found that they didn't have as much as I wanted. I think that you would be able to get any tone out of the Uber Metal pedal if you tweaked it enough. But if you have the option, go to a local guitar store and just try out a bunch of pedals if you aren't sure. As for the OS-2, I don't think that will cover your distortion needs.

I have a Boss Super Overdrive pedal, and although I don't use it as much, it does give me that extra 'boost' for solo's and stuff like that. It would help you to get to that EVH tone.

With all that in mind, this is my general suggestion: Get a distortion pedal, OD pedal, and also an equalizer. Although equalizers aren't cheap, some multi-effect pedals have equalizers (I have a Digitech RP70 that has one and the RP70 is not expensive) and it makes a whole world of difference in your sound. If you have your distortion cranked up and OD screaming, when its run through an equalizer and noise gate, it keeps your heavy disortion but makes it less muddy.

Thats what I've found out on my own. Could be different for you. Its all in the tweaking and the research. I find that although you get all the suggestions in the world, only you can find the right stuff for the tone you want.
#6
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Try the metalzone by boss. Not only is it a good metal pedal, but it cuts out all of that fuzz that gives a ****ty tone to your setup.



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#7
I would get the Metal Muff
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#8
metal muff is the best metal pedal. line 6 and metalzone/core are too fuzzy and digital. the BBE super distortion is good, but something just doesnt cut it.

tl;dr (even if it doesnt apply): get a METAL MUFF w/ top boost. (the top boost is kinda useless, but you can use it as an improvised boost for solos, but it's not as pleasing sounding as an overdrive)
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#9
Quote by skateblockade
Try the metalzone by boss it increase all of that fuzz that gives a ****ty tone to your setup.

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How can you not get a good evh tone out of your carvin x100? i thought that was the amp a lot of hair metal guitarists used in the 80's. I can get a great van halen tone out of my 18 watt marshall nonmaster volume clone with a slight boost from my rat


but if you must, get a ProCo vintage rat (kinda expensive but worth it) they will give you instant 80's metal tone (hair to 80's thrash to 80's power)
#10
+1 for the metal muff.

Great metal distortion, more akin to the 80's era of metal.
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#11
Quote by Dance_of_Death
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How can you not get a good evh tone out of your carvin x100? i thought that was the amp a lot of hair metal guitarists used in the 80's. I can get a great van halen tone out of my 18 watt marshall nonmaster volume clone with a slight boost from my rat


but if you must, get a ProCo vintage rat (kinda expensive but worth it) they will give you instant 80's metal tone (hair to 80's thrash to 80's power)


I can get a pretty good sound for EVH but I think an OD would make it perfect. For now though I'll look into a metal muff.


Thanks for your help everyone
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#12
honestly if you want just a boost, a metal muff isn't really what you want
If you want to get it perfect, get what eddie used, an mxr 5 band EQ, you could use it as a boost and boost your mids

also, new pickups could be needed you say you're close so that could be the deciding factor


a good set of paf alinco 2's will get you close to brown sound
Last edited by Dance_of_Death at Feb 1, 2009,
#14
Quote by Dance_of_Death
honestly if you want just a boost, a metal muff isn't really what you want
If you want to get it perfect, get what eddie used, an mxr 5 band EQ, you could use it as a boost and boost your mids

also, new pickups could be needed you say you're close so that could be the deciding factor


a good set of paf alinco 2's will get you close to brown sound


at the moment I am looking for more of a crunchy high gain type sound, which I think the metal muff will cover. Thanks for the suggestions, when I get around to it I may look at some new pickups for EVH .
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#16
Quote by sexwithdolphins
i dont get all the metalzone hate.... i get a pretty good thrash tone out of it.


It's cause it sounds thin and brittle, it's got a terrible bypass tone, it's not versatile, it can't cut through a mix and it's a BOSS.
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#17
I find that I can get very diverse tones by using an OD pedal and a distortion pedal combined, as I'm sure many others do. That way, even if you don't want to play just metal, you have an exceptionally varied range of sounds and tones, and can pull off that crazy level of distortion quite well. However, I'm not a metal guitarist at all, so I don't know exactly the tone you guys look for, but it sure is a hell of a lot of distortion :P
#18
Quote by OneTimer1127
I find that I can get very diverse tones by using an OD pedal and a distortion pedal combined, as I'm sure many others do. That way, even if you don't want to play just metal, you have an exceptionally varied range of sounds and tones, and can pull off that crazy level of distortion quite well. However, I'm not a metal guitarist at all, so I don't know exactly the tone you guys look for, but it sure is a hell of a lot of distortion :P


That's where my tone is coming from right now. The DeVille's gain channel sucks so I've got a Tube Driver, Zendrive 2, Mosferatu and TS808 all running in different combinations to get a huge variety of sounds. And two OD/Distortion pedals running together literally gives you nearly endless sustain, even at low volumes. Your tone starts to lose dynamics though once you stack to many together/turn the gain up too much though.
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#19
I have heard a lot of good things about the Metal Muff, many people have said it is the best metal pedal out there. Many metal guitarists I know on Ultimate Guitar use it.
#20
SUPER thread necro time!!!

Just picked up a Metal Muff used for $50 today, new @ Sweetwater for $90.

Until the last month, I never used pedals for distortion/drive, I always had the amp do that.  And, I have some descent amps, such as a Metroplex, 5150 head and the 2x12 combo with upgraded celestion speakers.  I also have some SS amps which are not too bad, Firehawk1500 and the Peavey Vypyr Pro100, as well as a Spider Valve HD100 head and a Marshall 8100 head, the last 2 are actually hybrid valve/solidstate amps with tube pre's and SS power stages.

So, with all the crap, why would I need a pedal for dirt?  Simple, this is my bedside setup, for low volumes and late night playing, through a bass amp actually (TC BG250 15" with a tweeter).  So far, I am liking the muff.

Here is what I like:  Seems like it has so much gain, I cannot dime it out.  I havre 2 Boss pedals that do not have enough drive even with all knobs dimed out (OS-2 and MD-2).  I have a MXR Fullbore, which is slightly lacking in the tone I want.

The Muff has a great EQ section, so when you turn the knobs, even slightly, you hear a change in tone.  Nothing like diming the treble to not get much of a change (i.e. Boss pedals).

The boost is a nice feature, good kick and seperate volume if I need to play a solo and want to hear my sound above the MP3 backing track.

Even with a ton of gain and dirt, the notes don't seem to get muddy, I can hear what I am playing over chords or adding slight harminics to riffs.

I like that it runs on 9v, starting to hate all these 18v pedals.

It is all metal, seems solid, knobs seem tought enough.

I have not found the perfect tone, yet, but I am confident I will get it by this weekend.  With the EQ, I just need to find the right high/mid combo and I will be set.  The palm mutes sound fine for me, I have not had any problems with them being too short, maybe because of the bass amp and the kick of the 15" woofer?

I am actually returning both Boss pedals and keeping this (and the MXR for blues stuff).  I also use the MXR for bass, it seems to work good as a bass dirt pedal.

So yes, this metal muff is worth keeping for the price, and for thr sound and versatility.  I have a Mad Prof on order, but I think I can get the EVH Roth era tones with more tweaking.

Hope someone that is on the fence can read this in 2018

Dave
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