#1
Hi guys!

I've been playing on my acoustic (or actually a "classical" in Dutch?) guitar for about 3 months now, I practice everyday, at least 2 times 15 minutes and I (if I do say so myself ) am getting better.
However, I've always wanted to play electric and I think in a while it'll be time for that, because my current guitar is mostly for chords, which I think is fun, but solo playing is SO much cooler.

So I'm a huge fan of Iron Maiden, so my first idea was to get a stratocaster.
Particularly a Squier like this one (I'm lefty btw!)

However I couldn't really find any convincing about these guitars on the net (or maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places....meaning google)
I spoke to a friend of mine yesterday who's been playing guitar for years now (he had just finished his gig at one of our local bars)
He said I'd be better off getting an Ibanez because they've a better price/quality ratio, a 25 watts amp and some basic effects.
So I was looking at the Ibanez GRG 170 DX (left, ibanez site sucks btw, can't get a link )

But what type of amp and what sort of effects should I get? I really have no clue on that area.

My budget currently amounts to exactly 0. But I'll be starting my internship tomorrow will should get me 200 euro's a month for the next 5 months, so would it have any use to buy a guitar first, then amp and the effects?
I tried hooking my dad's 12 string semi electric onto my pc, I did get some sort of signal, but no sound. Has anyone gotten a decent sound out of their PC?

Also, is a whammy bar really a useful addition? Since Maiden and Judas Priest, my fav bands use their whammy bar to pull of a lot of awesome stuff, I wondered if this would be something to look for in a starter guitar.

Thanks in advance!
David.

P.S.: The standard forum avatars are pretty funny!
#2
in your price range, you dont really want a trem.

lower end guitars only get one yank before the guitar falls out of tune.

so get a hard tail, fixed or TOM bridge.

get at least one humbucker for your style of play. HSS strat or HH ibanez style,

and look at a good practice amp, with effects. like the microcube.
Jenneh

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#3
You won't be able to do the whammy tricks that metal bands pull off with a GRG, or any entry level electric for that matter. It's not THAT important at first anyway. The bridge on the GRG (or other comparable guitars) only works for some vibrato, rough treatment will make it detune your guitar.

A Squier isn't actually a bad guitar - the Vintage modified series is excellent value, for example. Anyway, a GRG is better for what you play, because of it's pickup configuration. You'll probably want a humbucker in the guitar's bridge position for hard rock and metal, which the Squier does not have, but the GRG does. Check out the Yamaha Pacifica 112, too, I prefer it to most equally priced guitars, but that's just personal - it isn't necessarily better than an Ibanez or Squier. Still, I think it should work for you, so give it a try maybe:
http://www.thomann.de/nl/yamaha_pacifica_112l_left_hand.htm

Sadly, it is a good bit more expensive than the right handed version. The GRG is cheaper, too.

About amps:
These have amp modelling and effects, so you should have everything you need for a start.

http://www.thomann.de/nl/roland_micro_cube.htm
http://www.thomann.de/nl/roland_cube30x.htm
http://www.thomann.de/nl/vox_vt15.htm
http://www.thomann.de/nl/vox_vt30.htm
http://www.thomann.de/nl/peavey_vypyr_30.htm

The Microcube is for home practice only because of it's low wattage. The bigger version, the Cube30, is loud enough for band rehearsals already and has similar effects and amp modelling. The Cubes are nice for modern metal sounds and pretty versatile.
The Vox modellers are great for old-school sounds - maybe what you are looking for. The VT30 is loud enough for band stuff, the VT15 isn't in most situations. Those are my personal favourites.
The Vypyr is as loud as the Cube30 and VT30 and is also best for modern sounds. Still, it's as versatile as the other amps, so it's worth a try.


EDIT: Also, Jenny's right about the tremolos - definitely consider some hard tail guitars. I'll get you some links in a minute.


EDIT2:
Thomann doesn't have the lefty versions of these, but they exist. It'd be hard to find one though.

http://www.thomann.de/nl/ibanez_gax30tr_egitarre.htm
http://www.thomann.de/nl/ibanez_arx140_wh.htm
http://www.thomann.de/nl/ibanez_rg321mhrb.htm

These are worth a look also, but I dont know whether there are lefty versions available:
http://www.thomann.de/nl/ibanez_sa160bs.htm
http://www.thomann.de/nl/ibanez_sa120ex_sv.htm


Generally, Squiers, Yamahas and Ibanez' for 150€ or more are good - whether you like them or not is something you'll have to find out yourself.
I'd avoid Epiphones below 300€ though, some are decent, but some are of poor quality.

There are many other brands that are interesting (like Vintage), but I don't know if they offer lefty guitars at all, so I'm gonna shut my mouth now.
Last edited by TheQuailman at Feb 1, 2009,
#4
Good advice in the above post. The first thing to think about is where you are going to play the guitar. Unless you are in barn in the middle of a field don't get anything too powerful to begin with. Something like a Roland Microcube amp will be fine to start with as it sounds OK and has a variety of amps and effects on it.

A decent starting guitar is the Yamaha Pacifica 112v but there are other similar price guitars that are good value for money. Try a few out and see which suits you best. If you have been playing for about 3 months you will have a good enough idea to tell if a guitar suits you or not. Don't worry about your first electric guitar too much as once you get into it you can always change to a more suitable guitar.
#5
Hi guys,

So after some looking around and reading some reviews I think I'll go with the Ibanez GRG 170 DX.
One question though: What's the use of those "sharktooth inlays" I've never heard of them before.

Also, I'm gonna go for a Roland Microcube, but should I get the 20 or 30 watts? Is 20 enough for a gig? If I buy the 20 will I need another one soon for any reason?

Thanks!
#6
20 is kind of useless.

either get the 30x for band practice. (small band needed)

or get the microcube for solo home use.


and inlays are cosmetic.
Jenneh

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#7
Okay, thanks a bunch! I'll get the 30 then!
I really thought there was something up with those inlays, I searched here and I found a thread where people were bashing them....I was like "wtf, does it hamper playing or what?"

#8
Jenneh

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