#1
I've been looking into getting a new cab and I really want a 412 only I'd like to keep it to one cab and all I can find is getting two 2 12s.


Why doesn't anybody make a 412 in like a slanted cab style like guitar cabs come in? Is it possible to convert a guitar 412 into a bass cab, and if so aside from swapping the speakers what else would I need to do?
#2
get 2 18's

you will be fine =)

it doens't sound like a good idea to make a guitar can into a bass cab.
after all...its made for guitar.
But i could be wrong...i've been wrong before you know.
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#4
4x12s sound great. well 2x12s sound great i know and a 4x12 will give more volume/lowend. They come very close to the punch of 10's and very close to the depth of 15's. think punchy 15" speakers. I personally am looking at getting a 4x12 setup. just can't find any to try in my area. 2 2x12s is somewhat the better option because of the hassle of moving a 4x12 around.

i don't know exactly why they don't slant them but turning a guitar cab into a bass cab won't be as easy as switching out the speakers. the cab itself is tuned to a certain frequency to help reproduce certain frequencies that sound good on guitar. Also, bass 4x12 cabs are not built in the same style as guitar 4x12s. they are taller, and thus project the sound higher up without the need for a slant.
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#5
If your going for a 4x12 cab, your pretty much looking at a fridge type set-up. Sorry.
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#6
Gallien Krueger have a 4x12 as part of their NEO line of speakers.

I have the 2x12 version and it is good

Got to ask though, do you want a 4x12 because you're playing gigs big enough to justify that size cab, or do you just want it for the sake of having a 4x12?
#7
Aguilar, Bergatino, G-K all make 4x12's. Marshall makes a bass cab like a guitar cab and so does peavey but they both suck quite badly.
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#8
With bass cabs, a good bit of engineering is required in the cabinetry itself. With guitar cabs, you can stick any speaker in any position in any cab of any shape, and by and large, everything'll work. It'll have different characteristics, but it'll work. With bass cabs, you just can't do that. Marshall bass amps are a joke, and so are there guitar-like 412s and, yes, 415s. A 415....
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#9
Ive seen other 4x15's. i thinl sunn made it.
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#10
Inline, 2x2, like a guitar cab? And as deep as a guitar cab?

I mean Acoustic made one, too - 2 pointing forwards, and 2 backwards.
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#11
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Got to ask though, do you want a 4x12 because you're playing gigs big enough to justify that size cab, or do you just want it for the sake of having a 4x12?


I did see their 412 fridge. The reason why I wanted it, is I was just thinking of upgrading from my Avatar 410 and thought a little home project like the 412 might be something fun to work on for a while.
#12
If went back to the original 4x12s you would probably be very dissapointed, most had 25 watt 12s hence the need for four of them to make a 100 watt cab.
As speaker power handling grew so did the magnet weight by a factor of 4 in a 4x12 cab.
If you do want four 12" SPEAKERS I would go for two 2x12s loaded with Neos.
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#13
he could always get a 4x12 with neos in it. Still heavey though. over 100 lbs. that's why I also think 2 2x12s is the better option unless you'll never move it...as if that's gonna happen. lol
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#14
I prefer the big cabs to two smaller ones. 8x10s, 4x12s, etc, cause you have everything together in 1 package, and they roll if the person designing them has any semblance of a brain, so they're still relatively easy to move on your own.
#15
sure most of them roll...but what if there's stairs involved. my practice place is the second story of a barn.(fully heated and all) It's be a pain moving something that big/awkward and heavy up stairs. even 5 or 6 stairs would be annoying.
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#16
meh, I don't really find it all that terrible. I honestly find moving our guitar player's rigs around more of a pain than mine, cause I just tilt mine back and they go, and you only need 1 person to do it.
#17
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sure most of them roll...but what if there's stairs involved. my practice place is the second story of a barn.(fully heated and all) It's be a pain moving something that big/awkward and heavy up stairs. even 5 or 6 stairs would be annoying.
Know full well what you mean, I built some cabs for 'Def Leppard' and had to deliver them up three flights of Fire Escape to their rehearsal room.
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#18
Did you used to work for a Cab company John, or were you a private builder. You sound as though you must have made some serious stuff.
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Did you used to work for a Cab company John, or were you a private builder. You sound as though you must have made some serious stuff.
I built custom gear and got speakers straight from the factory. I'll go back through my shots and dig out the Leppard cabs.
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#20
Hey if this guy wants to carry around a 4x12 then he's stronger than me so I won't argue.

seriously if you want a project then why not build from scratch rather than adapt a guitar cab. It's not that a guitar cab won't work at all its just that a custom cab will work better.

A 4x12 won't sound any different or be physically different from 2x12's if they are using the same drive units, it really just comes down to what you prefer carrying.
#21
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Did you used to work for a Cab company John, or were you a private builder. You sound as though you must have made some serious stuff.


Here's the some of the cabs I built for Def Leppard, the flared cabs were very efficient but complex to buiild.
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Squier Affinity Jazz Bass 5
Ashdown RPM pre-amp
Ashdown Little Giant 1000
300 watt 15" powered cab
450 watt 15" powered sub bass cab
2x10 + horn
1x15x10 + horn
#22
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seriously if you want a project then why not build from scratch rather than adapt a guitar cab. It's not that a guitar cab won't work at all its just that a custom cab will work better.


Building from scratch would take more work and time than I had intended on investing in this whole thing. It was more of just an idea than a necessity to have a 412 cab like that.