#1
I've recently picked this amp up and I'm really digging the sounds I can get. The only problem is the fact that it's a little too bright for the tone I'm after (a smooth lead suitable for prog, jazz fusion etc.)

So basically, my question to you good people is; how should I go about reducing this unwanted 'ice pick' and smoothing out my tone a little? My current rig is as follows;

MXR Zakk Wylde OD -> Boss GE7 -> Boss DD-2 -> GH50L + GS212IE
Gear:
Ibanez S470DXQM
Laney GH50L - Laney GS212IE
Boss GE7
MXR Wylde OD
Boss DD2
Boss CE20
Walden G570
#2
down with the treble and presence
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#3
Done. Can't really get any lower if I'm honest haha.

Thanks anyway
Gear:
Ibanez S470DXQM
Laney GH50L - Laney GS212IE
Boss GE7
MXR Wylde OD
Boss DD2
Boss CE20
Walden G570
#4
1. Make high freq adjustments on your GE-7
2. Lower the tone dial on the ZW OD pedal to reduce highs.
3. Lower the mids, the amp naturally has a lot of mids already.
4. Lower your treble significantly and raise the presence.
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#6
1. Tone knob.

2. speaker change.

3. EQ.
#7
Thats for all the suggestions guys. I've tried most of the simple fixes (EQ adjustments, tone know etc.) and I'm getting close to the sound I'm after.

I'm a little too strapped for cash atm, but I would definitely consider switching the tubes. Which would be the best 6L6s and how many would I need?
Gear:
Ibanez S470DXQM
Laney GH50L - Laney GS212IE
Boss GE7
MXR Wylde OD
Boss DD2
Boss CE20
Walden G570
#8
I thought that at first as well when i got my GH100L.

I now have the presence on 8.5 and the treble on 5

It's a tone you will get used to and learn to love

I have the presence at 10 on my VC50 :P

Try these settings

Presence-8.5
Gain-8
Drive-8
Treble-5
Middle-7
Resonance- On

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Ibanez PGM301 signed by Paul Gilbert
Ibanez PGM 500
Ibanez Fireman custom
Saving for a GH100L/VH100R
Orange PPC212 2X12
#9
Thanks sharpant, those are some good settings. I remember watching your videos when I was deciding whether or not to get the amp haha. Nice playing

Tbh, I'm a huge Paul Gilbert fan but I'm looking for a slightly smoother, warmer tone, his is a little more harsh to my ears.

I've kinda decided to opt for the tube switch and 6L6s look like my best bet. Could anyone recommend a brand and explain to me the general process of switching? So far, through defining what i'm looking for, JJ looks like my best bet.
Gear:
Ibanez S470DXQM
Laney GH50L - Laney GS212IE
Boss GE7
MXR Wylde OD
Boss DD2
Boss CE20
Walden G570
#10
I have JJ's in mine, didn't make an amazing change but they do they job. If you want a warmer smoother tone 6L6's are the way to go mate

I love the raw in your face tone the E34L gives me

Thanks for the compliments
Ibanez PGM301 signed by Paul Gilbert
Ibanez PGM 500
Ibanez Fireman custom
Saving for a GH100L/VH100R
Orange PPC212 2X12
#11
I would look at simply switching the V1 preamp tube first before doing an expensive poweramp retube.
The V1 preamp tube has a HUGE affect on an amp's tone. The preamp is the voice of any amp. Although EL34's have more bite and edgier mids than 6L6's, a change won't affect how the amp sounds as much as a preamp tube swap.
You might have some really harsh, thin sounding preamp tubes in there right now. A few JJ ECC83S's at $12 a piece might solve your problem. Worst case scenerio, you'll have some spare preamp tubes on hand.
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Last edited by Van Noord at Feb 6, 2009,
#12
Thanks for the advice. If I were to switch out the pre amp tubes (which certainly seems the cheaper option) would I need to modify the amp in any way? Or is a simple pull-out and plug-in job?
Gear:
Ibanez S470DXQM
Laney GH50L - Laney GS212IE
Boss GE7
MXR Wylde OD
Boss DD2
Boss CE20
Walden G570
#13
GH don't do subtle.
You'd be best using some kind of disto or maybe even saving for a new amp.
#14
Quote by Sir Daniel
Thanks for the advice. If I were to switch out the pre amp tubes (which certainly seems the cheaper option) would I need to modify the amp in any way? Or is a simple pull-out and plug-in job?
They are just pull out and plug in. For your amp, I would avoid Electro Harmonix, Tungsol preamp tubes because they are somewhat bright sounding to begin with.
MARSHALL JVM 210H
PEAVEY JSX
KRANK 412
MESA 412
FENDER STRATS
DIMARZIO
CELESTION
#15
Ah Brilliant.

Horlicks: I wouldn't want to waste money on a new amp, because I'm pretty much in reaching distance of what I'm after. Even a minimal decrease in the brightness would give me the tone I want

Once again, thanks for the help everyone
Gear:
Ibanez S470DXQM
Laney GH50L - Laney GS212IE
Boss GE7
MXR Wylde OD
Boss DD2
Boss CE20
Walden G570
#16
Put your treble around 5,
roll down the presence to about 3
take out the zakk wylde OD,
set the highest frequency on the GEQ down somewhat
use a neck pickup.
adjust gain accordingly.
if that doesn't get you something smooth, i don't know what will.
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Traynor YCV50
Fender FMT HH Tele
Mesa Boogie 2ch Triple Rectifier
2 1x12 custom Theile cabs
ISP Decimator
Krank Kranshaft
Boss BF-2 Flanger
BBE Sonic Maximizer