#1
So i've recently come into some money, about 1,500 AUD and i'm pretty intent on upgrading my behringer (life-changing mistake ) or my bass, MIM p-bass & SX p-bass special copy.

If i sold the p-bass i could probably get up to 2 grand AUD as the SX's tone is seriously better then the P-bass, maybe i got a good piece of wood but it really stands out from the p-bass to the extent that i only use the P about once a week. I was looking at the aerodyne P-bass (because i'm in love with it) and i was wondering if you guys had any other suggestions and or experience with the aerodyne.

The behringer i'm going to have to upgrade in the future i guess but i don't know whether i should do it now or later. The few shops around me have mostly no-name brands, but there's this one shop that has Orange amps AND Trace elliots. And i was wondering if any of you guys had any experience / feedback / opinions on which to get on either of these brands. I'm definately looking to get a head and cab and i was looking at either the 115 on orange or 410 for a cab and the AD200B head. Still not sure about trace elliot as i havn't had a look yet.

Soo. Any suggestions?
#2
find an ampeg 810 with and ampeg head and thats all you will probably ever need
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#4
no and he wont be able to afford it
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#5
what would 4500 aus be in us dollars close to 2500 or less? you can get a used 810 for 600 to 800 and a head for maybe 1200 used but thats US dollars.
and what is better in your opinion than ampeg? anyone i know that is big has that because it is the best.
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Last edited by trlrdrmatt at Feb 6, 2009,
#6
^ Ampeg is not for everyone, and you didn't even ask what style of music he plays. Bad form, sir.

I'd definitely do the amp now...the basses you have will last a while.

As far as what's at that store, try the stuff out and see what you like. Also tell us what the no-name brands at the other stores are...there are a few aussie brands that are quite good, and are much cheaper since they aren't imported. I think Jansen was one.

edit: also, $1500AUS is $988USD, but Austrailia and NZ get gouged down there....I'm notreally sure how the price translates over once you take that into account.
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Last edited by Mutant Corn at Feb 6, 2009,
#7
I wish i had that money...I whole heartidly recommend orange they are awesome amps and if I had the would most likely purchase a Orange stack/halfstack.

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#8
Quote by Mutant Corn
^ Ampeg is not for everyone, and you didn't even ask what style of music he plays. Bad form, sir.

I'd definitely do the amp now...the basses you have will last a while.

As far as what's at that store, try the stuff out and see what you like. Also tell us what the no-name brands at the other stores are...there are a few aussie brands that are quite good, and are much cheaper since they aren't imported. I think Jansen was one.

edit: also, $1500AUS is $988USD, but Austrailia and NZ get gouged down there....I'm notreally sure how the price translates over once you take that into account.

Workman and monster are the no-name brands.

The MIM was selfbuilt by the previous owner btw and i think that's why the tone isn't great. Plus the SX has lasted me 4 years and the tone is kind of bland compared to say, anything except for a t-bird :p

Also, we don't get ampeg down here unless you buy off ebay. Which i don't trust.
#9
iv seen ampeg stuff at Billy Hyde, hell iv played through some. also labsystems is another Australian brand
Originally Posted by smb
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#10
Nah, last time i checked billy hyde was sold out. And the only time i've ever seen a labsystems amp was in footscray and it was pretty wack.
#11
amp before bass.
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#13
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The MIM was selfbuilt by the previous owner btw and i think that's why the tone isn't great. Plus the SX has lasted me 4 years and the tone is kind of bland compared to say, anything except for a t-bird :p


Did you try just checking out the electronics on the p bass? The builder could have put in pots or a cap with strange values (I bought a bass that came that way once) which can actually make a huge differance on the tone. Even if that's not the case you could just install a new pup

I'd focus on upgrading the amp right now (A new amp might even bring out different qualities in your two basses) and in the meantime see if there isn't something very easily fixable on your p-bass.
#14
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I'd focus on upgrading the amp right now (A new amp might even bring out different qualities in your two basses)


This. Behringers have horrible sound quality, and anything will sound muddy through them. And as far as the basses go, check the pots on the P-bass, but keep in mind that SX's don't sound bat at all...you might just like the tone of it better.


As for the no-namers, I can't find anything on them (typical..), but if they have one big enough I'd at least try it out. Just because it's not a mainstream brand doesn't mean it's bad.
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#15
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This. Behringers have horrible sound quality, and anything will sound muddy through them. And as far as the basses go, check the pots on the P-bass, but keep in mind that SX's don't sound bat at all...you might just like the tone of it better.


As for the no-namers, I can't find anything on them (typical..), but if they have one big enough I'd at least try it out. Just because it's not a mainstream brand doesn't mean it's bad.

I've tried them all out, they are on par or slightly better then the behringer.
The workman's are pretty sturdy sounding though but they're a tad expensive.

Also, i checked over the P-bass like twice when i got it, everything except removing the neck, it's all in order, he might of used a different kind of wood though, but i can't identify it, definately a fender neck though.
Also, mutant, was the SX or the Fender the first bass in your blog (what does price have to do with tone)?
#16
Well, talking about behringer, i was talking to this guy today and he says his behriger was th ebst amp he ever owned, and he has an ashdown mag now. I honesly believe him, His been playing along time, and has always had a sturdy tone, so i for one believe that behringer now and again have a Beautiful gren apple amoung all the rotting fruit.
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#18
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Well, talking about behringer, i was talking to this guy today and he says his behriger was th ebst amp he ever owned, and he has an ashdown mag now. I honesly believe him, His been playing along time, and has always had a sturdy tone, so i for one believe that behringer now and again have a Beautiful gren apple amoung all the rotting fruit.

I don't doubt it.

I refer to it as the sweet lemon theory. every once and a while, a citrus farmer will get a sweet lemon.
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#19
What good's a sweet lemon?
EDIT: what do you guys think of DiMarizo and/or Seymour duncan bassline pickups?
#20
Actually originally lemons are quite sweet its just ones we buy are sour.
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#22
^yes, but this one was even sweeter.
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my Dad grew one. tasted like extra sour lemonade.

he told me not to take all of it though. everyone in the family had a piece.

he said it was rare, and then gave some speech about gardening.
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#24
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Your dad grew DiMarizo and seymour duncan pickups?

lol. citrus.

he still does, but the lemon tree died.
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#26
Gallien Krueger 1001RB and a 410 cab. Instant win.
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#27
Mmkay, so i'm leaning towards selling the behringer and the P-bass to get the Orange halfstack and replace the pickups in my SX unless i find a bass that i fall in love with before then.

Whatchoo guys think?

EDIT: Also, there's no GK retailers at all arond here as far as i know.
#28
If you can, I'd ask the store owner if you can bring your basses in and try them through the amp. That way there's no risk of selling one, only to find out you like the other better.

However, if you do like the SX better, that seems like a solid plan. I'd try to do it without selling the P-bass if you can, though. It's always nice to have a backup, as I found when my Squier's neck went to hades. If I hadn't had my SX, I'd have been stuck gigging with an acoustic.

Oh, and I'll pm you about the blog...I don't want to answer in a thread. It defeats the purpose of it.

edit: V lol
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#29
I'm not really into the gig scene atm, i've only done like 5 or 6 and i doubt there'll be any this year apart from school. I guess i could always try and get a $50 bass from a pawnshop somewhere and go nuts with electronics and a bandsaw.

EDIT: i just got the a-maize-ing joke.
#30
If you like the SX there is no reason to upgrade, other than you want a different brand name on it.
I'd definitely look at the Orange amps, I love their tone. Save getting a new bass for the future.
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#31
I would say go with a mid 80's Trace elliot, they have great sound and eqing with 7 and 10 band eqs. They also are usually 200 to 500 watts. Plus i got my 200 watt trace for roughly $400 USD. Pretty inexpensive if I do say so myself. And if you hook up a cab to a trace elliot, you get a WAY louder than normal.
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#32
I went down to the store last night and the only trace elliot that have is the ah series i think it was, the massive 810 ones.