#1
Hello

I have a lonely epiphone sitting in the corner that is yerning for a upgrade.

Now, my question to you guys. Will a EMG pickup work in it to help me get heavy rock tones? I am playing through a digitech bad monkey and a fender fm65r amp.

I ask due to inexperience.. I usually play a telecaster through a champ 600 to give you a clue to how little experience I have with modern rock

And if they do work for me, what emgs do you recommend?

thanks in advance
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Last edited by Talmir at Feb 6, 2009,
#2
EMG's = bad unless used with tubes. If you intend to use that Champ and crank it, go for it, but if the FM65R is your main amp, stay with low/medium-output passives.
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#3
Alnico 2´s then paired up with a high gain pedal maybe? (I´m trying to get as much high gain heavy tone without replacing my amp )
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#4
Quote by Talmir
Alnico 2´s then paired up with a high gain pedal maybe? (I´m trying to get as much high gain heavy tone without replacing my amp )


That's actually a good idea. I'd go for this, as long as the amp you use isn't a modelling amp.
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#5
What kind of Epiphone LP is that? Standard, Studio, Special, Custom... ? Because if it's a Special, then I wouldn't change its pickups, not worth it.

Edit: Sorry, I've just reread your post, you didn' say it's a Les Paul . Doesn't matter, if it's a cheap guitar I wouldn't change the pickups.
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#6
Quote by hansolo1106
What kind of Epiphone LP is that? Standard, Studio, Special, Custom... ? Because if it's a Special, then I wouldn't change its pickups, not worth it.

Edit: Sorry, I've just reread your post, you didn' say it's a Les Paul . Doesn't matter, if it's a cheap guitar I wouldn't change the pickups.

That doesn't make sense, sir. You can make many a cheap guitar quite decent by changing the pickups.

OP: You have to lose the frontman if you want good tone. Spending money on pickups is something you do after you've got a good, solid setup. It's tweaking an already good sound, not fixing a bad one (usually).
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Quote by theoreticmusic
That doesn't make sense, sir. You can make many a cheap guitar quite decent by changing the pickups.

OP: You have to lose the frontman if you want good tone. Spending money on pickups is something you do after you've got a good, solid setup. It's tweaking an already good sound, not fixing a bad one (usually).

I'm thinking of those very cheap guitars, like the Epiphone LP Special 2 (the one I have), or eg a cheap Squier Bullet Strat. They usually have poor wood, cheap electronics and tuners, and so on. So spending about 200 $ on pickups (which is more than those guitars cost) is I think not really worth it.
Of course, if the TS has got a cheap, but nice guitar (good construction, he likes to play on it), then sure, go for the pickups. But first, get a new amp .
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#8
Yeah...exactly. As long as good wood is involved, there really is no problem with a pickup upgrade.
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#9
Quote by Talmir
Alnico 2´s then paired up with a high gain pedal maybe? (I´m trying to get as much high gain heavy tone without replacing my amp )

Those are LOW output pickups so they wouldn't be what you want at all, but in all honesty a pickup swap isn't going to do anything to improve your "heavy" tone through that amp, just buy a pedal.
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Those are LOW output pickups so they wouldn't be what you want at all, but in all honesty a pickup swap isn't going to do anything to improve your "heavy" tone through that amp, just buy a pedal.


I can get very heavy tones with my low output pickups. It's not he resistance that matters.. it's what you plug into.
#11
Quote by steven seagull
Those are LOW output pickups so they wouldn't be what you want at all, but in all honesty a pickup swap isn't going to do anything to improve your "heavy" tone through that amp, just buy a pedal.


IIRC, buying a JB and changing the magnet to a Alnico 2 gives a VERY good tone.
It's what Seymour Duncan himself uses.
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#12
JB? not sure what it stands for :P
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#13
JB = first custom pickup Seymour Duncan wound for Jeff Beck.

I'd be interested in hearing the JB with a AII, it's just too harsh with the A5 magnet, and too flubby in heavier mahogany guitars.
#14
Quote by steven seagull
Those are LOW output pickups so they wouldn't be what you want at all, but in all honesty a pickup swap isn't going to do anything to improve your "heavy" tone through that amp, just buy a pedal.

Lots of guitarists like low output pickups with a hi-gain amp
#15
Quote by jamesfarr
Lots of guitarists like low output pickups with a hi-gain amp


Including myself. I just plain love low-output pickups through tubes though. Gives more room to play around before the amp blows out. As far as getting a JB, I'd say go for it; they are easily my favourite pick for a bridge position humbucker.
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#16
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I can get very heavy tones with my low output pickups. It's not he resistance that matters.. it's what you plug into.

I said low output, not low resistance...they're not the same thing.
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#18
i dont wanna be a dick but new amp if you want to play metal. and EMG's are pretty useless unless you have tube amps. theyre made to overdrive the tubes more.
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