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#1
Hey,

Ive had a quote from Ran guitars for a guitar based on a KL explorer, it came to 2,380 euros, but i need to decide on the top wood, so can anyone show me pictures of

Bubinga and Chechen?

And of fretboard wood, Indian Rosewood or Brazilian Rosewood?
as i couldnt find much on google

Thanks in advance
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#2
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1055842
Scroll through that thread for pics of Bubinga. Can't help you with the other wood, but the Indian Rosewood is more common than Brazilian.

EDIT: Just googled Chechin Wood. First is burl, second is regular.



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Bunch of faggots putting random riffs together and calling it "progressive" deathcore.
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#3
I just saw perrys thread too, ill decided when hes put the finish on the guitar haha

that burl actually looks pretty nice, whats the difference between the burl and regular though?
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#4
Nothing but the pattern.
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#5
If its no extra price I would go with brazilian over indian rosewood, as brazilian is rarer, and arguably better.




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#6
Does it have a different feel or sound?
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^Not really, it's just for bragging rights/pen0rz enlargement. Might be a tiny bit warmer, but we're talking about literally almost.. 5% of the guitar's tone? And the part it affects can be changed depending on what type of pick you use too, so it's whatever you choose.
Then there's this band called Slice The Cake...

Bunch of faggots putting random riffs together and calling it "progressive" deathcore.
Stupid name.
Probably picked "for teh lulz"

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#8
Haha, thanks mate

I just had a quote back for the same guitar, but 7 string, chechen burl top, brazilian rosewood fretboard and a MOP "wolf howling at the moon inlay" with the 7string version of the BK pickups for 2670 Euro's.


Thats not too bad
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#9
7 string eh? Now you're talking!




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#10
haha, my dad thought it would be a good idea, as you could put more chords and such into a song, and it would be useful so i decided that

EDIT::

Does anyone know what type of finish this is?


Thats the inlay I want


Look how much thicker their version of the KL headstock is


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#11
That finish is a deep clearcoat over a GREAT piece of spalted maple. Beautiful guitar.
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#12
Awesome thanks
I still dont know what top to have
Chechen / burled
Bubing / burled
or spalted maple

Is there any tonal differences?
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#13
If your still looking to see pictures of wood, go to warmoth.com, they have a great wood description area at their site. Also if you can find it, as the site just changed around, go to the laminate top thing to see lots of examples of lots of great woods.
#14
Cheers Mate



EDIT:

Spalted maple looks good, but you can only have a thin laminate of it

But the Bubinga sounds like it would sound good, and look good so
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Last edited by Dust_to_Dust at Feb 8, 2009,
#15
Why dont you just get me to make one for you for a lot less?

This one I did is for sale too- Bubinga top-



#16
If it's a veneer, there will be no change in tone. The thicker the top is, it can more brightness or warmth to the sound depending on the type of wood. Still not a huge difference until you get to the 1/2"+ range.

Burled wood generally comes in veneer, because it's often got a lot of inconsistancies.

Spalted maple will sound sort of like maple, but not quite as bright because the grain structure and resonance is damaged by fungal invasion. This top might be thicker but I doubt it will change the sound too much. Is it a mahogany body?


http://hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/
^^This is a great resource for seeing what woods look like. He's not selling anything (a la Warmoth, et al) so it's pretty honest about the faults of each one too. I'm not sure how this dude has so much time to take all of these pictures, but there's a TON of info. Not a guitar builder, though, so tonal qualities are not covered.
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#17
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Why dont you just get me to make one for you for a lot less?


How much could you have one done for?
You put your own headstock on too dont you?
I like the KL headstock, but at the right price i would over look that haha
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#18
Quote by Dust_to_Dust


EDIT:

Spalted maple looks good, but you can only have a thin laminate of it



A common misconception, possibly related to the fact that it's on the Warmoth website.
You can get 1/4" or even thicker for a top-- I've seen plenty of guitars that use it as a thicker top material or for accents. Hell, I'm building one now!
There was a guy on projectguitar a while back who build an SG out of solid spalt. Probably very heavy but it can be done!
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#19
Quote by Dust_to_Dust
How much could you have one done for?
You put your own headstock on too dont you?
I like the KL headstock, but at the right price i would over look that haha


I'll do you one with my headstock for £1200. If you want that inlay it'll be another £60 on top.
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I'll do you one with my headstock for £1200. If you want that inlay it'll be another £60 on top.



My Good Friend, you may have a deal there

Im thinking about getting it for my 16th so

How long would it take you to make it, and how can i give you the specs i want?
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#22
They havent come through
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#24
Okay im making the specs now, would it come with a case or?
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So it takes 3-4 months to be made, and my birthday in november, so start building about june/july if possible, and is a deposit required?
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Last edited by Dust_to_Dust at Feb 8, 2009,
#28
Whats your reccomendation on the guitar Nut?
I havent got a clue on whats better for tuning stability
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#29
If your using a tremolo, graphite nut. If your not, bone nut.
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#31
Good call, Dust.

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#32
I assume your going for a simular spec to the Hetfield KL model so you'd probably want Locking Sperzel tuners so tuning would be solid as anyhow. I'd go with a black or cream self lubricating graphtech nut. I like the sound and theres no resistance to the strings with big bends and stuff.

Bones OK but I dont like the look of it and they tend to be a little brittle.
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Good call, Dust.

JS will make you a happier man than many people ever could. I'd kill to play some of the guitars he's made. fack I hate being broke.


lol, f**k it. PM me and I'll send you one for free!
#34
Quote by jscustomguitars
I assume your going for a simular spec to the Hetfield KL model so you'd probably want Locking Sperzel tuners so tuning would be solid as anyhow. I'd go with a black or cream self lubricating graphtech nut. I like the sound and theres no resistance to the strings with big bends and stuff.

Bones OK but I dont like the look of it and they tend to be a little brittle.


Damn, i just sent the e-mail. Change the bone nut to a black Graphtech nut then
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#36
So when can you start building (around june/july if you want) and when will i have to pay the deposit?
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#37
Please tell me your parents aren't blowing all of 1300 quid on a guitar for your 16th birthday. I wish i had your parents..
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#38
They're not, Ive been saving up for years, and i have enough to get one, so im going to treat myself to one
I was going to wait till my 18th, but when JS told me he could make one at that price, i thought stuff it
haha
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#39
Quote by Dust_to_Dust
They're not, Ive been saving up for years, and i have enough to get one, so im going to treat myself to one
I was going to wait till my 18th, but when JS told me he could make one at that price, i thought stuff it
haha


That makes me feel much better. If my parents were gonna spend that much on a birthday present, I surely wouldn't spend it on a guitar. I'd have them go halves on a car haha.
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#40
Hahaha

I like how you think..
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