#1
So when it comes to Les Pauls, what make do you consider to make the best?
ESP or Gibson?

Remember, the Gibson is rrp'd at 4 times the price of ESP's
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Quote by GangsterLi
So when it comes to Les Pauls, what make do you consider to make the best?
ESP or Gibson?

Remember, the Gibson is rrp'd at 4 times the price of ESP's


So your asking which company makes a better les paul...... a company that has been the staple of les pauls and SG's for 50+ years or a company that just made one to say they have a single cutaway one their line.......
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Depends on style of music, seeing as the ESP has EMGs. They're both great guitars.

Also, four times the price? wut?
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Well, they both have a different neck, as well as different tone, and a different target audience, I think.

The Gibson weighs more, and consequently seems to have better sustain and clean tones. It also has passive pickups. The gibson neck is pretty thick for some people and that's why some players prefer the Esp Eclipse. I myself have an Eclipse because I tend to play mostly metal, prefer smaller necks, EMG's and something that's not going to kill my back. It's all just personal playing style. I don't think either is really better, they're just different guitars. I also find the ESP body more comfortable to hold while playing.


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Well, one isn't an ESP its an LTD and there is a huge freaking difference.
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ESP dont make Les Pauls.
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ESP dont make Les Pauls.


No but they make the Eclipse which is nearly the same shape as the Les Paul.


I'd say Gibson's.

However if you just play metal than the ESP.

If you play bit of every thing that the Gibsons.

But if you also put EMG's on Gibson than it would be a tie.
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So your asking which company makes a better les paul...... a company that has been the staple of les pauls and SG's for 50+ years or a company that just made one to say they have a single cutaway one their line.......

Do you think that the Gibsons made nowadays are the same as the ones made back in the '50s, even though they're made in a different factory, by different people, using mostly different machines under a different company management?
That doesn't sound reasonable to me.


I personally dislike ESPs. There's nothing wrong with them quality wise, they're built well as far as I can see, they just feel completely wrong in my hands. The thinner body affects the tone, too. A Gibson's tone is often "deeper", for the lack of a better word. I can't tell a difference concerning sustain most of the time. Gibsons vary a lot in sound and quality, so it's not a good idea to make generalisations about them. ESPs are more constant, so if you try one in a store and like it, chances are you'll like all the other ones there are - so buying online isn't much of a risk. With Gibson it's different, they're all a bit different and Gibson has a recent history of putting out lemons, so if you want one, you should only buy the exact one you personally tried.

Even though the guitars look similar, they feel and sound a lot different, so finding out which one is better is pretty much impossible. It's all preference.


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Well, one isn't an ESP its an LTD and there is a huge freaking difference.

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Gibson started failing about 1 year ago. ESP is better. Unless you can find an old Gibson.
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gibson guitars vary greatly in quality. even guitars in the same line (eg. Les Paul Special) can differ greatly from one instrument to the next. you could play a les paul and love it, then play one thats aesthetically the same, and in the same series, and it could sound and play horribly. the biggest problem with gibson is theyre very inconsistent.

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Old Gibsons were better but now ESPs are more consistant quality-wise.
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At least ESP eclipse's probably have more consistency in their production. Neither is 'better', they are simply 'different'.
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just to let you know, that guitar you have up there is a LTD.

and LTD is not an ESP. same company, lower quality.

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#14
What has been said is said;

Prs single cut (kinda les paul) is better then both in quality and consistency.

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Do you think that the Gibsons made nowadays are the same as the ones made back in the '50s, even though they're made in a different factory, by different people, using mostly different machines under a different company management?
That doesn't sound reasonable to me.


I personally dislike ESPs. There's nothing wrong with them quality wise, they're built well as far as I can see, they just feel completely wrong in my hands. The thinner body affects the tone, too. A Gibson's tone is often "deeper", for the lack of a better word. I can't tell a difference concerning sustain most of the time. Gibsons vary a lot in sound and quality, so it's not a good idea to make generalisations about them. ESPs are more constant, so if you try one in a store and like it, chances are you'll like all the other ones there are - so buying online isn't much of a risk. With Gibson it's different, they're all a bit different and Gibson has a recent history of putting out lemons, so if you want one, you should only buy the exact one you personally tried.

Even though the guitars look similar, they feel and sound a lot different, so finding out which one is better is pretty much impossible. It's all preference.


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+1, basically. I like the esp eclipse, but it's a lot more modern-feeling and sounding. if you want a more vintage-style LP copy, edwards or navigator (if you want to stick to ESP) is where you want to be looking.

it's also a bit daft to be comparing a LTD to a Gibson- if you're willing to go to the price of the Gibson, shouldn't you also be looking at Gibson's rivals at a similar price?
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