#1
Hey

Im looking at getting a 6505 or 6505+. Ive read about the differences.

Im not bothered about the extra money involved....is it worth stepping upto the 6505+? People mentioned the non plus is heavier?! Or is that just a trick of the ears?

Im imagining they are both heavy.

Want it for Hardcore Punk like Comeback Kid, Bane, and more chuggy stuff. Also for more melodic punk like No Use For A Name.

Any ideas?

Thanks
#2
if you dont use the amp's clean channel the 6505 will be better and cheaper
but if you want a good clean channel get the + version.

and what is your budget im sure i can find you a better amp if you give me your budget.
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#3
Finally someone else that plays hardcore music.
The 6505 is fine for hardcore considering mostly every band that plays shows use 5150. The 6505 just has a extra preamp tube if i am correct. So i don't which one is heavier, but when I went to go see a death metal band two days ago they had 6505+,but he was using a vader cab and it was heavy as hell.
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#5
I just love the sound of the Peavey 6505's....ive heard a few clips of the + and they are so heavy...what kinda gain do you lose?

For now ill be running it with a USA Tele hahaha, and a new Orange PPC412 Cab.

I dunno how much gain ill lose with the plus...I dunno...i might one day play pretty brutal stuff but itll never be full on death...more like heavy as **** chuggy metal.


Hmmmm
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the 6505 is a bit more raw sounding and has more gain (not that you'd ever need more) than the +, but the + is smoother, warmer, and has a better clean channel. i guess technically the regular version gives you more bang for your buck, but chances are the + might be your thing. i would go for the regular if i were you, on second thought, because that way you have enough leftover money for a tele-sized humbucker.
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Everytime I see some say that play hardcore music I see bands like
The devil Wears prada so seeing someone at least name drop bane thats new to me.

Ah. I see. You're just particular about your genre classifications.
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#9
Get the 6505+ if you need more headroom and therefore slightly nicer cleans and don't mind losing a tiny (imo negligible) amount of 'rawness'.

The differences are negligible, but imo, the extra EQ is worth it.
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#10
Yeah the extra EQ seems good...plus ability to have some nice cleans.

I DO want it to be able to produce nice warm and full distortion like more modern punk as well as some chuggy metal stuff.

I think id be after a proper SG when ive got the cash...
#11
the 6505+ still has more gain than is necessary
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#12
The more gain factor Really does not make a differance with these amps, as I never put mine past 5.5, allthough others do, it's not like you will ever need to turn a 6505+ pre-gain to 10 to match a 6505.
The cleans are a bit better, but again, nothing that one cannot manage with a 6505 in comparison. They are both very alike, and can only be differanced when going head-to-head using the same settings that you notice a bit of a differance, but at that nothing major. They are both voiced very much the same, being dark, low-mid accentuated amps.
Using either of these amps with an Orange 4X12 will give you Incredible bass. Great cab to be pairing with these amps, as are any cab that has V30's in it, as the high-mid spike in them really brings out the amps full sound. I'm going to be getting V30's in the next cab I buy because they sound so great with a 6505.
It'll do your chug, hardcore, and all that other stuff no problem
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Yeah the extra EQ seems good...plus ability to have some nice cleans.

I DO want it to be able to produce nice warm and full distortion like more modern punk as well as some chuggy metal stuff.

I think id be after a proper SG when ive got the cash...
For you, I recommend the 6505+. That way you'll have the crunch channel for your punk stuff and the lead channel for your hardcore stuff. Both channels will have their own eq too so you won't get frustrated trying to find a common eq setting for both channels.
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#14
Thanks for the advice

I notice Bring Me The Horizon use both...one of each for each guitarist.

And boy are they HEAVY!
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All That Remains and Killswitch Engage are pretty hardcore. So was Dick Dale back in the day.
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