#1
So our band is looking at buying a small PA system, mainly for vocal and guitar/bass amplifying. I know we need at least a mixer (looking at this: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PV8) and some mics (looking at these: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/R21). What else will we need? Speakers? Can we just use regular sound system speakers? How would we hook them up to the board?
Gear:
Agile Ash RB 828
Schecter C-7 (old 90s style headstock)
Handbuilt 6-string V
Handbuilt Baritone scale 6 string Iceman-copy
Pod HD300
Last edited by Jango22 at Feb 8, 2009,
#3
Mics (look at Shure), mixer (the one you looked at is minimum), amp (at least 100w), speakers (little ones on stands are cool and easy to move around), cables (remember special ones for speakers), mic stands (boom stands are best), effects and an engineer. Oh, alright. You can do without the engineer.
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#4
Ironic. I read that article just last week, and had completely forgotten about it XD. Thanks Tom. How's the next Disbelief chapter going?
This is just for practicing in my barn so we can actually hear our vocals. Our singer has a crappy portable amp thingy that he says auctioneers use. We're just looking for a way to be able to hear him, really.
Gear:
Agile Ash RB 828
Schecter C-7 (old 90s style headstock)
Handbuilt 6-string V
Handbuilt Baritone scale 6 string Iceman-copy
Pod HD300
#5
Odd isn't it? It's brilliantly useful information though. PA information can be quite difficult to find. If people continue to rate and comment then, chances are, he's going to expand into a full series concerning PA system information.

I'm about a page in, which is good considering I'm working part time, doing two articles a week, and trying to fit in a private life. However, the first page made me tingle with excitement. As long as I keep getting ratings they won't fire me apparentally.
#6
Awesome. Can't wait to read part 10.
Am I looking at a full blown PA system or are there mic amps out there? Like I said, it's just for at practice.
Gear:
Agile Ash RB 828
Schecter C-7 (old 90s style headstock)
Handbuilt 6-string V
Handbuilt Baritone scale 6 string Iceman-copy
Pod HD300
#7
The full system will likely aid you more in the long run as a band, so if you can afford it, I think you should go for that.

However, if you're not really after the big expense, just go for the little microphone setup.
#8
Quote by Jango22
Awesome. Can't wait to read part 10.
Am I looking at a full blown PA system or are there mic amps out there? Like I said, it's just for at practice.


If you really don't want a PA and are just doing practice, you could always use a bass amp (preferably with a horn or tweeter) or a keyboard amp. A transparent one will cover most of the sound spectrum pretty evenly. Plus the odds are probably decent that someone has an extra bass como sitting around. I'm not saying it will sound great: you won't be able to equalize properly for vocals, but it might get the job done for cheap, and if you get a kickback small bass combo, you can angle it just like a monitor.
#9
Quote by dullsilver_mike
If you really don't want a PA and are just doing practice, you could always use a bass amp (preferably with a horn or tweeter) or a keyboard amp. A transparent one will cover most of the sound spectrum pretty evenly. Plus the odds are probably decent that someone has an extra bass como sitting around. I'm not saying it will sound great: you won't be able to equalize properly for vocals, but it might get the job done for cheap, and if you get a kickback small bass combo, you can angle it just like a monitor.


That is a very bad thing to do for the amp however. Plus, you never know when it's going to cut out that way. Eventually, it will cut out, so best just get a microphone and some speakers.
#10
Where can I find some speakers for it? Also, what kind of power source would I need for that? Just pick up a pair (or how many would I need?) of powered speakers? How many watts?
Sorry for all the questions, i'm new to the PA/Mic stuff. I'm a guitarist, not a singer XD
EDIT: Would this thing work, just for amping a mic? http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/CubeMon30/
Gear:
Agile Ash RB 828
Schecter C-7 (old 90s style headstock)
Handbuilt 6-string V
Handbuilt Baritone scale 6 string Iceman-copy
Pod HD300
Last edited by Jango22 at Feb 10, 2009,
#11
Unfortunately I'm the same: a guitarist rather than a singer.

For these in-depth questions I would advise you to send a PM to the writer of the article above.
#12
Hi, Tom has pointed me towards this thread.

I think you've had good advice so far. Bass and keyboard amps are better than guitar amps because they are designed to have an uncoloured, flat response. tipping them backwards for a couple of hours won't hurt most speakers but make sure you push them back upright before you leave as they are not designed to be stored that way.

I would however advise you to buy some specialist vocal monitors. You will need these to be part of any eventual PA system so the money will not be wasted and they will improve your practice and the way you play together. Your choice is between powered and unpowered monitors. If you have a spare PA amp you could go for unpowered but I would go for powered if I started from scratch. They normally come with a 100W amp built in along with a very simple mixer. Carlsboro,Peavey and Yamaha do them and there are some cheap Chinese offerings, though the speakers in these tend to be rather inefficient (not too loud) I think all of them offer you the chance of adding an extra speaker at a later date. Get the shops to demonstrate their offerings and have a good listen.

I'd back up the recommendation for the shure particularly the sm58 on offer at amazon for £66 in the UK. It has deservedly become a standard. Good sound, great feedback rejection, robust, reliable, predictable the VW Golf of microphones. There are lots of cheap clones and they may be some gems but there are also lots of dogs out there. If you are serious about your music your singer has to sound good.

I'll keep an eye on this thread for a few days. Pm me if you have any questions after that.

Phil